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[redelitev6]

Hope someone can help me with this weird problem,i changed the centre console window switches,as the rear window switches were broken, the windows are now working fine,however last night i put the side lights on and the dash board lights  went out, no other lights e.g. switches went out ,also the autobox gear lever lights went out although these come back on when the side lights are turned off,the radio has gone into safe mode and will not respond to the AS button being pressed ,i've checked all the fuses -no problem there , i've double checked all the window switch connections and they look ok ,any ideas anyone?

[Andy B]

Don't know about the radio going into safe. Are you trying to enter the code with the ignition on?
What position is the rotary dial on the headlight switch in? This will dim all the lights you mention that appear to gone out, the rheostat in it could be fubar'd    :-/

[iainb]

Does sound like a crushed wire, I suggest removing the centre consul and have a good look at the wires. Also have a good look at the connectors to see if any of the terminals have pulled back.

[redelitev6]

Hope someone can help me with this weird problem,i changed the centre console window switches,as the rear window switches were broken, the windows are now working fine,however last night i put the side lights on and the dash board lights  went out, no other lights e.g. switches went out ,also the autobox gear lever lights went out although these come back on when the side lights are turned off,the radio has gone into safe mode and will not respond to the AS button being pressed ,i've checked all the fuses -no problem there , i've double checked all the window switch connections and they look ok ,any ideas anyone?

Managed to get this sorted by accident! after being stood for a while the battery was flat,took it out and charged it up ,on recconection everything worked ok!lights ok ,radio ok,no problems,something needed a reboot perhaps?

[benbrunt]

Hope someone can help me with this weird problem,i changed the centre console window switches,as the rear window switches were broken, the windows are now working fine,however last night i put the side lights on and the dash board lights  went out, no other lights e.g. switches went out ,also the autobox gear lever lights went out although these come back on when the side lights are turned off,the radio has gone into safe mode and will not respond to the AS button being pressed ,i've checked all the fuses -no problem there , i've double checked all the window switch connections and they look ok ,any ideas anyone?

Managed to get this sorted by accident! after being stood for a while the battery was flat,took it out and charged it up ,on recconection everything worked ok!lights ok ,radio ok,no problems,something needed a reboot perhaps?

Is the battery on its way out, sometimes as the cells die the low voltage can make modern electrics go a bit haywire. My digital dash on an old car went mental when the battery went to heaven

[redelitev6]

Hope someone can help me with this weird problem,i changed the centre console window switches,as the rear window switches were broken, the windows are now working fine,however last night i put the side lights on and the dash board lights  went out, no other lights e.g. switches went out ,also the autobox gear lever lights went out although these come back on when the side lights are turned off,the radio has gone into safe mode and will not respond to the AS button being pressed ,i've checked all the fuses -no problem there , i've double checked all the window switch connections and they look ok ,any ideas anyone?

Managed to get this sorted by accident! after being stood for a while the battery was flat,took it out and charged it up ,on recconection everything worked ok!lights ok ,radio ok,no problems,something needed a reboot perhaps?

Is the battery on its way out, sometimes as the cells die the low voltage can make modern electrics go a bit haywire. My digital dash on an old car went mental when the battery went to heaven

The Battery is getting on a bit so could be the problem,i shall keep an eye on it just in case

[Dave DND]

If you are suspecting a battery, then this cold weather will not help it either - even good batteries struggle to keep their charge in these temperatures.

I`m sure someone will be along shortly to explain the science behind that one

 

[Entwood]

Found this on the web ... have no idea as to its accuracy .....

once the energy goes into the battery, it stays there and the self-discharge rate is actually reduced at low temperatures, but the amount of that energy which can be accessed is dependent on the temperature at which the battery is discharged. So, if the battery is fully charged at 20 deg C and then taken to -25 deg it might only be possible to get 20% of its capacity out but if it's warmed up to 1 deg before being discharged then it may be possible to get 80% of the capacity out of it.

The other problem which needs to be taken into account is that the electrolyte turns to water as the battery is discharged. At low discharge rates and in warmer temperatures, this in practice just means that the electrolyte gets less concentrated. However, at high discharge rates the electrolyte can't move around fast enough within the cell to keep the concentration even so you get localised areas where the concentration is reduced close to the electrodes. Thus, if you discharge the battery very fast the effect is that its capacity is substantially less than if you discharge it only slowly. Furthermore, in very low temperatures, the reduction in the concentration of the electrolyte might be sufficient to allow it to freeze, which will do irreversible damage to the battery

and

What effect does extreme cold have on my battery?

Cold temperatures dramatically reduce the effectiveness of chemical reactions within the battery, while increasing the battery's internal resistance. Both of these cause a reduction in cranking power as temperatures drop. Batteries left in a discharged state are also susceptible to freezing, which damages internal components and containers.

 :-? :-? :-? :-?

[sneakypenguin]

could be a loose/dirty/corroded connection somehwere

[feeutfo]

Found this on the web ... have no idea as to its accuracy .....

once the energy goes into the battery, it stays there and the self-discharge rate is actually reduced at low temperatures, but the amount of that energy which can be accessed is dependent on the temperature at which the battery is discharged. So, if the battery is fully charged at 20 deg C and then taken to -25 deg it might only be possible to get 20% of its capacity out but if it's warmed up to 1 deg before being discharged then it may be possible to get 80% of the capacity out of it.

The other problem which needs to be taken into account is that the electrolyte turns to water as the battery is discharged. At low discharge rates and in warmer temperatures, this in practice just means that the electrolyte gets less concentrated. However, at high discharge rates the electrolyte can't move around fast enough within the cell to keep the concentration even so you get localised areas where the concentration is reduced close to the electrodes. Thus, if you discharge the battery very fast the effect is that its capacity is substantially less than if you discharge it only slowly. Furthermore, in very low temperatures, the reduction in the concentration of the electrolyte might be sufficient to allow it to freeze, which will do irreversible damage to the battery

and

What effect does extreme cold have on my battery?

Cold temperatures dramatically reduce the effectiveness of chemical reactions within the battery, while increasing the battery's internal resistance. Both of these cause a reduction in cranking power as temperatures drop. Batteries left in a discharged state are also susceptible to freezing, which damages internal components and containers.

 :-? :-? :-? :-?

Hence the little body warmer jacket thing vx gave the omega battery i suppose. I always presumed extras like rear window/mirror heaters, heated seats, hids, etc, take more of a toll? All adds up i suppose Found out diesels are heavy on batterys as well. Had 2 go in our road this week, both diesels.