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ccrt700 phone problem?
« on: 24 March 2010, 21:41:47 »

hi guys,
how do i check that the phone aerial is working?
how does the aerial lead go up to the aerial?
tried everything else so it must be the aerial.
any ideas?

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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #1 on: 24 March 2010, 21:47:38 »

Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if your radio is working the phone should, Stupid question, but have you the correct sim card? You need O2 or Vodafone.
« Last Edit: 24 March 2010, 21:55:36 by ci643215 »
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #2 on: 24 March 2010, 21:59:09 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if your radio is working the phone should, ...

saloon is different. Radio is on the rear screen, phone is on the stubby roof aerial  :y
« Last Edit: 24 March 2010, 21:59:31 by Andy_B »
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #3 on: 24 March 2010, 21:59:47 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if yiur radio is working the phone should, Stupid question, but have you the correct sim card?


Unfortunately I must disagree   .... the radio aerial in Omega's is the heated rear windscreen element, powered through a radio amplifier. The little aerial on the roof is for 1) phone 2) satnav 

There are connections for the phone : in the aerial base, in the drivers footwell behind the right hand panel, on the radio unit itself.

On my old 2.5 with this problem it was eventually found to be the plug on the back of the radio cage. It is a VERY tight fit with all the wires, and the traffic master loom makes it even worse .. I think someone had the radio out and forced it back in .. dislodgeing the phone connection.

Refited and it worked perfectly .. :)
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #4 on: 24 March 2010, 22:06:57 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if your radio is working the phone should, ...

saloon is different. Radio is on the rear screen, phone is on the stubby roof aerial  :y

You sure Andrew?
My neighbour has a 2.2 Omega, and his radio is in the dash - like mine!
 ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: 24 March 2010, 22:07:08 by PedroMV6 »
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #5 on: 24 March 2010, 22:09:23 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if yiur radio is working the phone should, Stupid question, but have you the correct sim card?




Unfortunately I must disagree   .... the radio aerial in Omega's is the heated rear windscreen element, powered through a radio amplifier. The little aerial on the roof is for 1) phone 2) satnav 

There are connections for the phone : in the aerial base, in the drivers footwell behind the right hand panel, on the radio unit itself.

On my old 2.5 with this problem it was eventually found to be the plug on the back of the radio cage. It is a VERY tight fit with all the wires, and the traffic master loom makes it even worse .. I think someone had the radio out and forced it back in .. dislodgeing the phone connection.

Refited and it worked perfectly .. :)

What about my Elite estate though?
It's got a radio aeriel on the roof, but I have no idea what is used for it's phone aeriel.
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #6 on: 24 March 2010, 22:11:17 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if your radio is working the phone should, ...

saloon is different. Radio is on the rear screen, phone is on the stubby roof aerial  :y

You sure Andrew?
My neighbour has a 2.2 Omega, and his radio is in the dash - like mine!
 ;D ;D ;D

ha de bloody ha Peter! ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #7 on: 24 March 2010, 22:13:55 »

OK .. if it's an estate then the little aerial is used for both radio and phone .. :)

Haynes ... 12.19 section 21

Aerial - Saloon models
1 The aerial is integral with the rear heated
screen element.
Aerial - Estate models
2 It is recommended that the removal of the
aerial is carried by a Vauxhall dealer as the
operation involves the partial removal of the
load compartment headlining.
Aerial amplifier - Saloon models
Removal
3 Remove the rear seat cushions and back
rests as described in Chapter 11.
4 Where applicable unbolt and remove the
centre three point seat belt with reference to
Chapter 11.
5 Remove the rear headrests, then depress
the locking tabs and remove the headrest
guide sleeves from the seat frame.
6 Undo the securing screws and remove the
centre arm rest.
7 Carefully prise out the press stud fasteners
and remove the parcel shelf trim panel from
the vehicle.
8 Unscrew the coaxial cable connectors from
the side of the amplifier unit, the unplug the
power supply wiring connector from the front
of the unit.
9 Slacken and withdraw the securing screws
and remove the amplifier unit from the parcel
shelf.
Refitting
10 Refitting is a reversal of removal.
Aerial amplifier - Estate models
Removal
11 Open the tailgate, then work around the
periphery of the tailgate trim panel and
unscrew each of the securing screws. Lift the
panel away from the tailgate.
12 Unscrew the coaxial cable connectors
from the side of the amplifier unit, the unplug
the power supply wiring connector from the
front of the unit.
13 Slacken and withdraw the securing
screws and remove the amplifier unit from the
tailgate.
Refitting
14 Refitting is a reversal of removal.

HTH
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #8 on: 24 March 2010, 22:17:30 »

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Mine uses the radio aerial. If I remove it for the car wash, the signal strength drops, so if yiur radio is working the phone should, Stupid question, but have you the correct sim card?


Unfortunately I must disagree   .... the radio aerial in Omega's is the heated rear windscreen element, powered through a radio amplifier. The little aerial on the roof is for 1) phone 2) satnav 

There are connections for the phone : in the aerial base, in the drivers footwell behind the right hand panel, on the radio unit itself.

On my old 2.5 with this problem it was eventually found to be the plug on the back of the radio cage. It is a VERY tight fit with all the wires, and the traffic master loom makes it even worse .. I think someone had the radio out and forced it back in .. dislodgeing the phone connection.

Refited and it worked perfectly .. :)


I think as suggested above that the saloon is different to the estate. So my comment is probably unhelpful.
« Last Edit: 24 March 2010, 22:20:44 by ci643215 »
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #9 on: 24 March 2010, 22:22:14 »

l.t hasn't actually indicated if his is an estate or a saloon ......

In fact since asking the question he's said nothing .....  but we have managed to start an argument !!!

Not a bad result ... but perhaps we should await clarification from l.t ????


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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #10 on: 24 March 2010, 22:24:51 »

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......  but we have managed to start an argument !!!

Not a bad result ...  ....

did we?  :-?
No we didn't  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #11 on: 24 March 2010, 22:47:43 »

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OK .. if it's an estate then the little aerial is used for both radio and phone .. :)

Haynes ... 12.19 section 21

Aerial - Saloon models
1 The aerial is integral with the rear heated
screen element.
Aerial - Estate models
2 It is recommended that the removal of the
aerial is carried by a Vauxhall dealer as the
operation involves the partial removal of the
load compartment headlining.
Aerial amplifier - Saloon models
Removal
3 Remove the rear seat cushions and back
rests as described in Chapter 11.
4 Where applicable unbolt and remove the
centre three point seat belt with reference to
Chapter 11.
5 Remove the rear headrests, then depress
the locking tabs and remove the headrest
guide sleeves from the seat frame.
6 Undo the securing screws and remove the
centre arm rest.
7 Carefully prise out the press stud fasteners
and remove the parcel shelf trim panel from
the vehicle.
8 Unscrew the coaxial cable connectors from
the side of the amplifier unit, the unplug the
power supply wiring connector from the front
of the unit.
9 Slacken and withdraw the securing screws
and remove the amplifier unit from the parcel
shelf.
Refitting
10 Refitting is a reversal of removal.
Aerial amplifier - Estate models
Removal
11 Open the tailgate, then work around the
periphery of the tailgate trim panel and
unscrew each of the securing screws. Lift the
panel away from the tailgate.
12 Unscrew the coaxial cable connectors
from the side of the amplifier unit, the unplug
the power supply wiring connector from the
front of the unit.
13 Slacken and withdraw the securing
screws and remove the amplifier unit from the
tailgate.
Refitting
14 Refitting is a reversal of removal.

HTH

Excellent - thanks chap! :y
Didn't want to cut anything I shouldn't when I do the truck conversion.
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #12 on: 25 March 2010, 12:17:01 »

He was still on-line after I posted my first. Strange! :-? :-? :-?
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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #13 on: 25 March 2010, 21:50:02 »

hi guys,
thanks for all the answers. and the arguement!!
i have a 99 saloon with a vodaphone sim. will check the connection as it was quite loose and will follow it back to the kickpanel.
will get back to you when i have done this.
cheers for the help

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Re: ccrt700 phone problem?
« Reply #14 on: 27 March 2010, 15:57:18 »

hi guys just checked out the lead behind the radio and behind the kickpanel. both are ok.
how do i get to the  connection on the aerial itself?

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