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[D]

I was browsing the net and came across this. Apologies if its already been posted but I found the latter half of the video on cold wet roads interesting:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259435/winter_tyre_test.html

I then looked at their summer tyre reviews:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259435/winter_tyre_test.html

I tend to use the major tyre brand for all my cars with the exception of once trying Falkens and Vreds. I tend to rate GY Assymetric 2 and Michelin PS3 very highly and have found Contis to be good in the dry but deadly in the wet.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Interesting as for me, Michelins are over priced crap which is way to hard and again, never had issues with Contis in the wet

[feeutfo]

Found conti sc3 to be excellent in all conditions except snow( where skis would be better)

Michelin pander to a "a good tyre never wears out" type of customer it seems to me. The "a good tyre has loads of grip" type of costomer still seem to destroy them though... (Awaits post from TB )

[feeutfo]

Just to add, its unfair to ask a summer tyre to work on snow. Lets hope we dont see too much of it. Koz i'm crapping me self every time the weather forcast is on.

[TheBoy]

Interesting as for me, Michelins are over priced crap which is way to hard and again, never had issues with Contis in the wet

Quite agree with you. Torn if I prefer SC2 or SC3 contis. But I love my current Dunlops, even if they did let go earlier.

that last set of Michelin PS2 on TBE nearly killed me on several occasions

[YZ250]

Likewise, not had any issues with contis. Just had a new set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 extra load fitted. Never had them on Omega before so time will tell. My Toyo T1R's faired reasonably well in last years snow but they are soft rubber so wear rate is not good.
I can safely add that any tyre, no matter how expensive, fitted on tyre size 255x35x19, will not move in snow. I am so confident of this after last years snow that I will put my beemer in 'drive' with the handbrake off and then get out of the car, confident that it won't move, to prove how shite low profiles are in snow.    .

Regards
Alan

[D]

Interesting as for me, Michelins are over priced crap which is way to hard and again, never had issues with Contis in the wet

I find the Michelin primacy range are very much orientated towards longevity. The PS3 has been great on the 3.2 and the other cars in the family. My focus ST came initially shod with conti SC2. Not a bad tyre but they would light up the traction control in the wet and were noisy till I switched to PS3's. They must be a good tyre to be fitted to most if not all of the high powered Beemers.

Dunlops are good, slightly noisy perhaps, but then I chose them as my winter tyre of choice. I would have gone for the Conti winters but they were expensive.

[cem_devecioglu]

I was browsing the net and came across this. Apologies if its already been posted but I found the latter half of the video on cold wet roads interesting:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259435/winter_tyre_test.html

I then looked at their summer tyre reviews:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259435/winter_tyre_test.html

I tend to use the major tyre brand for all my cars with the exception of once trying Falkens and Vreds. I tend to rate GY Assymetric 2 and Michelin PS3 very highly and have found Contis to be good in the dry but deadly in the wet.

thanks for sharing the video.. on snow their difference can be predicted .. but on a wet road the difference even amazed me

when buying the last summer set for the daily shopping trolley, I couldnt find fresh potenzas, and I bought micheline pilot exaltos, which were really good tires.. (I checked the tests before) but in that time seen new ps3 at the same shop and I did my pressure and turn test on them (with my weight)    they were impressive on shiny surface and didnt move a bit..  ( I try this test on every tire I catch) .. so for miggy they are likely to be a candidate , and will compare the prices with contis and potenzas(and I'm sure I wont find new date on the last 2 brands as usual )..

[aaronjb]

I finally managed to find the limit of adhesion on the winter tyres today (wet road, about 2ºC) - but it did take a TheBoy style manoeuvre of full lock and a bootful of throttle to double back around a mini roundabout 

[TheBoy]

Likewise, not had any issues with contis. Just had a new set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 extra load fitted. Never had them on Omega before so time will tell. My Toyo T1R's faired reasonably well in last years snow but they are soft rubber so wear rate is not good.
I can safely add that any tyre, no matter how expensive, fitted on tyre size 255x35x19, will not move in snow. I am so confident of this after last years snow that I will put my beemer in 'drive' with the handbrake off and then get out of the car, confident that it won't move, to prove how shite low profiles are in snow.    .

Regards
Alan

not sure what it is about beemers, but the TC seems too aggressive in snow, and had to be switched off.  Even those beemers with fairly narrow tyres

[TheBoy]

Interesting as for me, Michelins are over priced crap which is way to hard and again, never had issues with Contis in the wet

I find the Michelin primacy range are very much orientated towards longevity. The PS3 has been great on the 3.2 and the other cars in the family. My focus ST came initially shod with conti SC2. Not a bad tyre but they would light up the traction control in the wet and were noisy till I switched to PS3's. They must be a good tyre to be fitted to most if not all of the high powered Beemers.

Dunlops are good, slightly noisy perhaps, but then I chose them as my winter tyre of choice. I would have gone for the Conti winters but they were expensive.

Pilot Sport (PS2 and PS3) are a very quiet tyre yet offer decent straight line stability, and offer good levels of grip in the first couple of thousand miles. From then on, seem to create a hard surface, that offers no lateral grip. Only fix is to wear off this surface, chav style in Tescos carpark, and the process repeats. Ability to slow a car from high speed in a straight line is awesome.

But the lack/unpredictability of cornering capability means they will never be the tyre for me.....

[cem_devecioglu]

Interesting as for me, Michelins are over priced crap which is way to hard and again, never had issues with Contis in the wet

I find the Michelin primacy range are very much orientated towards longevity. The PS3 has been great on the 3.2 and the other cars in the family. My focus ST came initially shod with conti SC2. Not a bad tyre but they would light up the traction control in the wet and were noisy till I switched to PS3's. They must be a good tyre to be fitted to most if not all of the high powered Beemers.

Dunlops are good, slightly noisy perhaps, but then I chose them as my winter tyre of choice. I would have gone for the Conti winters but they were expensive.

Pilot Sport (PS2 and PS3) are a very quiet tyre yet offer decent straight line stability, and offer good levels of grip in the first couple of thousand miles. From then on, seem to create a hard surface, that offers no lateral grip. Only fix is to wear off this surface, chav style in Tescos carpark, and the process repeats. Ability to slow a car from high speed in a straight line is awesome.

But the lack/unpredictability of cornering capability means they will never be the tyre for me.....

yep.. witnessed that with some old michelines.. I think after tire softing chemical agents evaporate, this happen.. here this is more severe ..