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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2012, 13:46:07 »

If that bloke could calm down a little he could be a real force in politics  ;)
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2012, 13:47:34 »

£50 million a day to support this joke called the EU. >:( >:( >:(

It's worse then giving foreign aid to the third world when we're broke >:( >:( >:(

VOTE UKIP
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2012, 15:15:05 »

well nigel as lot too say and to give him his due most of which is true but it is stuff everyone else is thinking...his speeches seem a little rambling of late though... :y
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #4 on: 04 July 2012, 16:19:14 »

£50 million a day to support this joke called the EU. >:( >:( >:(

It's worse then giving foreign aid to the third world when we're broke >:( >:( >:(

VOTE UKIP

Is that all  >:(

I like how nige puts it to em straight and to the point , i hope UKIP do well  :y
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2012, 18:05:08 »

well nigel as lot too say and to give him his due most of which is true but it is stuff everyone else is thinking...his speeches seem a little rambling of late though... :y



And thats my point.

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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2012, 23:54:43 »

Hit nail on head.

The nnnn19th summit had no break through. Italy gained nothing, Spain gained very little, Merkel lost a bit more domestic credibility.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-angela-merkel-was-the-real-winner-in-brussels-2012-7?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Business%20Insider%20Select&utm_campaign=Business%20Insider%20Select%202012-07-04

He is absolutely correct with the current structure of the ECB and Eurozone, German determination to not get financially destroyed and several countries constitutions, the problem is not solvable. Rumpy Pumpy collects is tax free massive salary every month, while all EU countries are being royally shafted by him and the rest of the officials. Especially the major net contributors which are Germany 1st, UK 2nd.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The joke is on us, the electorate for letting them get away with it. So just be good citizens when Rumpy Pumpy calls and bend over.

Did you know that an average Brussels EU secretary (one of the lowest paid) takes home pay after tax is about €8000 a month. Nice work if you can get it. Brussels and the Belgium economy is doing very nicely on the annual rises of the EU budget.

The longer Germany stays in the Euro the bigger the bill as they are the biggest contributor to all of the bailout funds and will pick up the biggest part of ECB losses and then there is TARGET2 where Germany has lent other cetral banks (mainly Greece, Italy ans Spain) over €700bn. If they get none of this money back and there is a big chance of that they will currently get taken for over €1tn or 50% of GDP. And then we need to look at German bank losses to Greece, Italy and Spain.....  :o :o :o :o

Why will Greece default again with Spain following them because both countries are serial defaulters, with Spain holding the record of 13 times. All the time they twist any countries arm as aggressive beggars, to get their begging bowl refilled Greece, Italy and Spain will take it. The only countries making a real effort to solve their problems are Ireland and Portugal, although Portugal is almost certainly going to require a further bailout. Why has France joined Italy and Spain? Self preservation, because they are the next domino in the PIIGS chain.

The Eurozone can't work, wont work, but it's a nice gravy train if you are at the top. The EUSSR when it finally collapses will have impoverished Western Europe like the USSR did Eastern Europe. The sooner we get out and get rid of the EU social baggage and EU treaties, so we can freely trade globally the better, this is holding back our economy and recovery so the less poor we will be.

Vote UKIP.
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #7 on: 05 July 2012, 00:08:30 »

Excellent. :y :y :y
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #8 on: 05 July 2012, 09:16:53 »

Well put Rods. :y :y :y
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #9 on: 05 July 2012, 09:40:41 »

Well put as always Rods  :y

What do you do for a living mate ?
You have a better grasp on this then most on here  :)

Does anybody know if Nigel Farage drives a Omega  :-X ;D
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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #10 on: 06 July 2012, 15:04:43 »

Well put as always Rods  :y

What do you do for a living mate ?
You have a better grasp on this then most on here  :)

Does anybody know if Nigel Farage drives a Omega  :-X ;D

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I've always had an interest in politics, but apart from reading a couple of economic books, I didn't know much about economics.

I realised in the 1980's when the EEC changed to the EU where is was going, basically it would be moulded on the French social model and French law everything is illegal unless made legal, where Anglo Saxon law is based on everything is legal unless made illegal! I've always been instinctively anti-EU since then as the French model will fail, making it European wide would extend its life by making the EU a much bigger inefficient bureaucratic trading block. The only chance of such a model working and being economically competitive was by it being the biggest trading block in the world and getting away with imposing import tariffs to keep out priced EU industries competitive, but with the rise of Asia with a much more competitive social economic model this was / is never going to happen. So Europe and the UK now have to compete or die. 13 years of Labour Government have put the UK in a particularly bad position and this is being perpetuated by the most left-wing and inept Conservative Government since Ted Heath.

I have since 2008 concentrated on understanding what is happening for two reasons: My business interests have been very badly hit by the recession and business mistakes, so I want to understand enough not to repeat them. The current economic crisis maybe the most significant event to affect us in our lifetimes, much like WWII was for our parents and WWI for our Grand parents and the 1930's depression was for both. So it makes sense to understand it to make good decisions. One of my hobbies is 20th century military history, where I have learnt much about human nature, intellect, personalities and strategies which you can apply effectively in other areas. That is why good army officers are normally good in business.

For example compare Churchill and Hitler, UK v German political and military systems (The Germans had by far the best army in terms of equipment and tactics which is why they held out for so long), Montgomery v Rommel. The turning point and outcome of WWII was settled in the second half of 1941. Two massive mistakes, German invasion of Russia, so they had war on two fronts, and Pearl Harbour with the US entry into the war.

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Re: Hold your hols, we will be back in August (UKIP) Politics
« Reply #11 on: 06 July 2012, 16:22:42 »

If that bloke could calm down a little he could be a real force in politics  ;)


You leave our Nigel alone >:( ;D
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