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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #30 on: 20 September 2012, 13:26:40 »

So at last this Job is complete....... Thank the Lord  ;D

As some know I started a new job and so my spare time has become none exsistant.. lucky really Karl had another car and knew this was not going to be done as quickly as I usually like things to be done ..

An update then from my last post.

I had completely put everything back together to find those bits of metal in the Gearbox. So, removed the gearbox to make sure every little piece was out, plus to check that nothing else was wrong in there.. I could see the damage to the starter motor with the gearbox removed so removed that as well (which could have been easier when the heads were off but all these things come to try us ::).

Dropped the Sump to clean out the nasty gunk, plus the pick up pipe. The oil filter was hideous.... Charged up the battery.

So this morning the Drums began to Roll... ;D

Car burst into life but would not tick over, so turned it off. Removed the ICV to find the slide rusted solid, (with the amount of water originally in the bagpipes, plenum plus inlet it was hardly suprising really.) Fitted one I had all nice and clean & oiled up then tried again.
Burst into life to be ticking over nicely  :y result.....

After a while the car became nice and quiet no leaks or anything so Happy Days....

Karl come and get it FFS  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Time for a couple of pictures me thinks....

So what do you think caused this then??



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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #31 on: 20 September 2012, 13:50:50 »

Had the starter motor been out before :-\ dropping it could be enough to cause a weakspot in the casting to start to crack, then over time, with the torque that those motors chuck out, it's only time before the crack spreads...

Crack may not have been spotted if never removed again :-\

Still looks nice and shiny now 8)
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #32 on: 20 September 2012, 13:51:13 »

wooo hoooooo...... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D...... :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #33 on: 20 September 2012, 13:58:34 »

I wonder if the engine has been partialy hydraulicing, this would try to force the starter shaft away from the ring gear and could smash the front casting (seen it before on a diesel)
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #34 on: 20 September 2012, 14:13:24 »

I wonder if the engine has been partialy hydraulicing, this would try to force the starter shaft away from the ring gear and could smash the front casting (seen it before on a diesel)

To be fair Master I was talking earlier about this to Karl. I was thinking about putting some power to the starter to see if the shaft was bent. The only reason I could think of... ???
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #35 on: 20 September 2012, 14:15:25 »

Had the starter motor been out before :-\ dropping it could be enough to cause a weakspot in the casting to start to crack, then over time, with the torque that those motors chuck out, it's only time before the crack spreads...

Crack may not have been spotted if never removed again :-\

Still looks nice and shiny now 8)

Can't in all honesty say Al if its been out before... although looked to me as though its been there along time. Of all the Omega's I have played with only two have I changed the starter motor.. this was number 2
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #36 on: 20 September 2012, 14:32:30 »

I wonder if the engine has been partialy hydraulicing, this would try to force the starter shaft away from the ring gear and could smash the front casting (seen it before on a diesel)

+1 lucky it didn't bend a conrod ::)
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #37 on: 20 September 2012, 15:16:59 »

I wonder if the engine has been partialy hydraulicing, this would try to force the starter shaft away from the ring gear and could smash the front casting (seen it before on a diesel)

Still find it strange that the car did not missfire....
Karl has been a Lucky Bunny with this, perhaps between turning the car off and the following morning when the key was turned to start the car, the cylinders filled with the water, hydrolicing to bend the starter motor to break its nose casting.... Good job it seems Karl did not keep trying to start it  :o
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Re: Why Anti Freeze is Important??
« Reply #38 on: 20 September 2012, 15:23:51 »

Indeed, you will probably find that the starter shaft is not bent as the casting would be the weak point.
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