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[jonathanh]

de walt or makita - don't bother with anything else.  just get the best deal you can

[MaxV6]

the 18V Ryobi OnePlus system seems pretty robust, i bought in to it a couple of years ago,  i give the stuff fairly heavy regular use and nothings failed yet....


i got 2 hammer drill/drivers,  a circular saw,  a jigsaw, a detail sander, a right-angle drill, 1 all type charger and 2 nicd chargers, and 1 large Lithium battery ,  1 small Lithium battery,  and 3 NiCd batteries.


the big Li battery is clearly the best, with the most grunt ,   followed by the NiCd , the little Li is frankly a bit crap,  in terms of heavy duty stuff, but handy to keep on hand for when i need a lightweight solution , say when up a ladder,  stretching to reach the target .... 

the balance is okay,  the weight, is acceptable,  but not the lightest i've tried....   the torque on the two hammer drills is pretty good,   and the lime green is easy to spot in a tool box,  or across a busy room /site

certainly better than the B&D or consumer level bosch and wickes own brand stuff i've tried....   

not sure on prices,  it's worth hunting out deals.... but the big Li battery and charger will eat a hole in your budget....     see if you can get a deal on a twin pack or something.... and make sure it has the "super charger" that does both NiCd and Li,  and then get the bigger battery on it's own....

[Andy H]

the 18V Ryobi OnePlus system seems pretty robust, i bought in to it a couple of years ago,  i give the stuff fairly heavy regular use and nothings failed yet....


i got 2 hammer drill/drivers,  a circular saw,  a jigsaw, a detail sander, a right-angle drill, 1 all type charger and 2 nicd chargers, and 1 large Lithium battery ,  1 small Lithium battery,  and 3 NiCd batteries.


the big Li battery is clearly the best, with the most grunt ,   followed by the NiCd , the little Li is frankly a bit crap,  in terms of heavy duty stuff, but handy to keep on hand for when i need a lightweight solution , say when up a ladder,  stretching to reach the target .... 

the balance is okay,  the weight, is acceptable,  but not the lightest i've tried....   the torque on the two hammer drills is pretty good,   and the lime green is easy to spot in a tool box,  or across a busy room /site

certainly better than the B&D or consumer level bosch and wickes own brand stuff i've tried....   

not sure on prices,  it's worth hunting out deals.... but the big Li battery and charger will eat a hole in your budget....     see if you can get a deal on a twin pack or something.... and make sure it has the "super charger" that does both NiCd and Li,  and then get the bigger battery on it's own....

I have still got a 20 year old 12v Elu drill that did a lot of work when it was new. It is well worn and would still be my first choice for light drilling & screwdriving if the batteries had any life left in them.

Black & Decker bought DeWalt in 1960, DeWalt bought Elu in 1994. I could by new DeWalt batteries for £60 each but it made more sense to buy a 14.4v Makita with 2 batteries for £99

Both are too lightweight for serious drilling though. I use a corded 900w SDS+ drill for big holes (because I am too cheap to pay £400 for a serious battery powered one)

[Entwood]

MMMM which one ....


http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-8391dwpetk-18v-combi-drill-101-piece-accessory-kit/83834#

or

http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dc100ka-gb-18v-1-3ah-ni-cd-cordless-combi-drill/73596

 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I would get the Makita as the Makita chargers are about the best there is and it is this single item which determines how good the batteries are.!

[Entwood]

I would get the Makita as the Makita chargers are about the best there is and it is this single item which determines how good the batteries are.!

Well, a recommendation from you is worth a thousand adverts .. Makita it is

Off to swidnod for some exhaust rubbers and a new drill .... (not linked other than by location !!!!      )

[tigers_gonads]

I would get the Makita as the Makita chargers are about the best there is and it is this single item which determines how good the batteries are.!

Well, a recommendation from you is worth a thousand adverts .. Makita it is

Off to swidnod for some exhaust rubbers and a new drill .... (not linked other than by location !!!!      )

Got to admit, i'm looking more at the makita's.
I had one in the past before some **** knicked it along with half my other tools out of the back of the car 
Now to see what deal I can get on either a ni-cad or a Li-on 
May go for a big Li-on battery then save up my sheckles for a spare 

Thanks for all the advise lads 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Depends on your use but I find a good charger and two Nicads ticks the box easily (and I do give them some hammer).

Nicads have a few miss reported things associated with them, most of which are due to the terrible charging solutions which are out there (note Li-on MUST have a good charger and hence you see few issues with them).

I have also had some of the bottom end Dewalt stuff in the past and its not been that great

[Martian]

Now to see what deal I can get on either a ni-cad or a Li-on  May go for a big Li-on battery then save up my sheckles for a spare 

Don't bother with Ni-Cd, aside from the problems of "memory effect" (which isn't what it sounds like) when recharging, Li-ion can maintain higher current levels for much longer than whatever it's Ni-Cd counterpart ever will.

If your budget won't stretch to a Li-ion setup you want, then Ni-MH is what you should choose.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Memory effect is actualy something of a myth which a good charger sorts easily 

As proven by a set of batteries I have on the DMU which originaly came from the APT.....and still working well despite being left in varying staes of charge.

[tigers_gonads]

B&Q relieved me of 148 quid and in return I got a nice 18 volt Li-on Makita BHP 453RFTK drill with a 22 minute charger and a handy 101 piece diy accesories case with it 

Thanks for all the advise lads