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[Varche]

The street where my MIL lives is what i would call an average street. council houses. some bought some tenanted.

Next door is a woman who has never worked, apart from labour, has a house full of kids some of which now have their own children. None work. Not a father to be seen. Nice car in the mud outside. One night MIL couldn't sleep and looked out of the window at 4a.m. to see one of the girls(15) sneaking back from a house over the road. It is a way of life.

[slowboy]

anyone can get benefit. get mine from ALDI £1.49 a box

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

I wouldn't have thought that the subject was that contentious, Lizzie.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

I wouldn't have thought that the subject was that contentious, Lizzie.

The subject about benefits should not be Opti, but there are some in our community who make this a contentious issue with unnecessary comment and assumptions made, that start to stir resentment in some, and a feeling of hopelessness of others who have to survive on state handouts.

This is a sensitive political issue, and is guaranteed to attract argument and counter-argument as in the past.  Do we want to risk that on the "New Feel OOF" ?

If yes, then I will again commence political debate starting with UKIP!

But I don't think the admins want this.  Do we?   That is an open question

[millwall]

No idea what the answer is though.

Shotgun  

[paul.lovejoy]

dont forget plenty of bullets/shells

[omega3000]

What was that a 100inch plasma tv  And own tattoo machine  Certainly an eye opener , that kid who looks like freddie murcury needs a good wake up call speaking to his mother like that 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

What was that a 100inch plasma tv  And own tattoo machine  Certainly an eye opener , that kid who looks like freddie murcury needs a good wake up call speaking to his mother like that 

Thinking about it......you're right, Mr Emd.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

I wouldn't have thought that the subject was that contentious, Lizzie.

The subject about benefits should not be Opti, but there are some in our community who make this a contentious issue with unnecessary comment and assumptions made, that start to stir resentment in some, and a feeling of hopelessness of others who have to survive on state handouts.

This is a sensitive political issue, and is guaranteed to attract argument and counter-argument as in the past.  Do we want to risk that on the "New Feel OOF" ?

If yes, then I will again commence political debate starting with UKIP!

But I don't think the admins want this.  Do we?   That is an open question

Hmm......I'm undecided, Lizzie.

[SIR Philbutt]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possuibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

Lizzie until the guidelines are specific about what is and ls not "acceptable" it is only the moderators that can interject in this manor IMO.

I have always looked forward to and enjoyed your posts on here. Please do not take this as a personal attack on you.

Phil

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Sorry all, but I thought threads like this were considered not to be right for this Forum.  Too political, too open to heated debate that deteriorates into rants as it winds people up.

TB and Ht21 felt, I believe, (in my words) these threads were just too depressing, boring, and potentially highly contentious.

What has changed?

I have deliberately not posted or entered into any thread that is possuibly meeting the above criteria.

Has all that changed now after some members left?  If so, why?

Lizzie until the guidelines are specific about what is and ls not "acceptable" it is only the moderators that can interject in this manor IMO.

I have always looked forward to and enjoyed your posts on here. Please do not take this as a personal attack on you.

Phil

That's fine Phil. No problems from my point of view

I have only raised this as it was only a very short time ago the admins seemed to go overboard in making sure we all appreciated their feelings, and how if things did not change the OOF could go.

But now various threads are appearing again that certainly touch on political thought and invite counter-arguments that could go pear shaped, as the admins fear.

I personally want to know where we all stand after all that previous discussion and "voting" so I know what I can post or not.  It is somebody else's Forum  after all.

[Broomies Mate]

Post what you want IMO - I certainly will not be told what I can or cannot post on this forum or any other.  I am not above the 'law' but I post what I feel will be acceptable to the masses.  Common sense really. 

[SIR Philbutt]

Post what you want IMO - I certainly will not be told what I can or cannot post on this forum or any other.  I am not above the 'law' but I post what I feel will be acceptable to the masses.  Common sense really.