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Re: Edward Snowdon
« Reply #15 on: 04 July 2013, 19:31:49 »

Don't have any sympathy for the guy, or for any other so-called "whistleblowers".  To work in a job where you have access to the sort of information they have published, you have to sign some form of confidentiality agreement.  In the UK, it used to be the Official Secrets Act - don't know if that's still the case these days.

As far as I'm concerned, if you aren't prepared to stick to what you've agreed, you have betrayed your country.  Your country may be wrong, but just who exactly are you to think that you know better? 

Chuck him in a dungeon and throw away the key.  Bung Assange in there with him and let them fight it out to see who's holier than whom!
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Re: Edward Snowdon
« Reply #16 on: 04 July 2013, 19:42:05 »

Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board...  :o

This gets better and better!!  :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360

This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.

There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.

But from the American perspective, a guy who is a traitor and has released secret information that could weaken / threaten western security. ;)

For Western read USA. The Americans don't give a fig for ANY other country (Britain included)



Well of course, since WW2 we all in the West have relied on the power and protection of the USA.  It has been crucial in keeping our democracies alive and well.  Together we are strong, individually we would be weak.

In the days of all empires the only thing that matters in the first instance is the mother country.  But in the process of that it's client states all benefit from the overall protection that "empire" provides. It is also a fact that a strong Europe, namely Britain, France and Germany, gives the USA a certain level of protection to their borders, which was particularly relevant in the days of the Cold War.  Our missiles and bombers were the first line of defence for the USA, and even now that is still true, although the Western seaboard of the States will always be vulnerable to direct attack from Eastern states. :y
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Re: Edward Snowdon
« Reply #17 on: 04 July 2013, 21:14:36 »

 A bit simplistic. I still believe that if the chips were down the Yanks would dump any country including us.

They have been spying on the EU offices (no doubt to help with the so called free trade outcome. Ye gods what next.

Oh and the Dutch have admitted that the yanks have had nuclear weapons on their soil (not some far flung island or dependency but Holland itself) for years despite the Dutch not voting for it.

The Frenchies have been exposed today as having a similar gigantic USA style information gathering machine. No surprises there.

We need whistleblowers and Assanges to keep countries honest. These are remember the same countries that back regimes in dodgy countries. The USA send 2 billion dollars a year to Eqypt for their military. ERR the military have just deposed the first democratically elected government. Will they stop sending the money? Of course not . Joe Public has no idea and cares less. As Den used to say OK! and Hello and beefburgers are what interest people.

 It all STINKS.
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Re: Edward Snowdon
« Reply #18 on: 05 July 2013, 10:46:11 »

It was reported yesterday that a hidden microphone has been found in the Ecuadorian Embassy!  ::)

The Foriegn Office have declined to comment....  ;)  ;D
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