Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem  (Read 3531 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Alex W

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northants
  • Posts: 290
    • 2000W Facelift 2.5V6 Elit
    • View Profile
Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« on: 21 October 2013, 20:37:33 »

I recently bought an old, apparently low mileage Micra to get her to work and back and keep me in the style to which I have become accustomed.

It pretty good for its age except that the steering goes very light at motorway speeds (70mph) but is fine town speeds.

On inspection the steering and front suspension look OK, there is no play on rocking the wheels.

Does anyone have any idea what might cause this effect?

Thanks in advance.
Logged

05omegav6

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #1 on: 21 October 2013, 20:43:04 »

Is the front crossmember still fully attached? They have been known to rot spectacularly, which would leave the front end quite floppy :-\
Logged

Alex W

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northants
  • Posts: 290
    • 2000W Facelift 2.5V6 Elit
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #2 on: 21 October 2013, 21:11:31 »

Sorry for being dim but is the front crossmember  the part behind the front bumper, under the radiator? I noticed that was quite rusty when changing the coolant.

The car was in the garage having the CV joints replaced 2 weeks ago, I told them about the lightness at speed but they said nothing about the crossmember.
Logged

05omegav6

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2013, 21:41:33 »

Sorry for being dim but is the front crossmember  the part behind the front bumper, under the radiator? I noticed that was quite rusty when changing the coolant.

The car was in the garage having the CV joints replaced 2 weeks ago, I told them about the lightness at speed but they said nothing about the crossmember.
That's the crossmember :y

I'm speculating as the crossmember holds the front of those together and are made of cheese...

Are tyre pressures all correct? Any weight in the boot? Was the issue there before the CV joints were changed?

How old is 'old'?  Does it have power steering?
« Last Edit: 21 October 2013, 21:44:04 by ex taxi al »
Logged

aaronjb

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2013, 21:47:24 »

What age and spec? The first of the 'bubble' shape, I presume, not the (really) old box shape?

The steering on Amy's is pretty light and does feel vague at speed compared to any of my cars .. but apparently that's normal (and has been like that since she's had it) - having said that it never feels dangerous, just .. light. Which I suppose it is..

AFAIK none of the bubble (K12) cars have speed sensitive steering..
Logged

05omegav6

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #5 on: 21 October 2013, 21:49:05 »

I'd forgotten about your one working car, Aaron ;D
Logged

aaronjb

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2013, 22:50:21 »

I'd forgotten about your one working car, Aaron ;D

 :P The Omega works! ... mostly. If you ignore the stench of burning oil and wandering front end.. ;D
Logged

Alex W

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northants
  • Posts: 290
    • 2000W Facelift 2.5V6 Elit
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #7 on: 22 October 2013, 09:48:58 »

Car is a 1.0 T reg 99, 56000 miles. Brand new tyres all round,correctly inflated, no weight in the boot. Power Steering

Light steering at speed was present before the clicking cv joint.

Car MOT'd less than 500 miles ago (Nov '12) with advisory's about exhaust and a dodgy tyre (Both since replaced) no advisory about crossmember.
Logged

05omegav6

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #8 on: 22 October 2013, 09:53:46 »

Reading Aarons post, that might be normal :-\
Logged

biggriffin

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • huntingdon, Hoof'land
  • Posts: 9775
    • Vectra in a posh frock.
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #9 on: 22 October 2013, 09:55:51 »

Going that fast the front is lifting,needs a DTM front splitter tea tray on. ;D
Logged
Hoof'land storeman.

aaronjb

  • Guest
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #10 on: 22 October 2013, 09:56:51 »

Almost identical to Amy's car then - hers is a 2001 1.0 'S' with similar mileage. I find it very light at speed - certainly lighter than the Omega, although when parking it's similar.

I don't feel it's 'dangerous' though, so if yours feels dangerously light it could be a problem ;) What size tyres are you running btw? Amy has 14" wheels on hers which might make it feel more stable, I think the standard was 13"..
Logged

Alex W

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northants
  • Posts: 290
    • 2000W Facelift 2.5V6 Elit
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #11 on: 22 October 2013, 10:56:34 »

It feels too light to me, like the wheels are barely making contact with the road. You have to slow down to get the feel back.

She only drives 2 miles to work and never gets up to higher speeds.

She's off tomorrow, weather permitting, I'll have the front bumper off and have a good look at the crossmember.

Logged

Broomies Mate

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bristol, UK
  • Posts: 3840
    • Stuff!
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #12 on: 22 October 2013, 16:40:12 »

No speed sensitive power steering on those so it will get lighter with speed. Worth looking around the local garages for another and have a cheeky test drive to see if they are the same?
Logged
2004 Saab 9-5 Aero Merlot Red Stg1 noobtune
2009 Saab 9-5 Turbo Edition Titan Grey Stg3 noobtune
2017 Vauxhall Vivaro L1H1 125PS Star Silver

tidla

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • solihull
  • Posts: 4097
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #13 on: 23 October 2013, 00:02:07 »

go slower, its what all the other micra drivers do.
Logged

Alex W

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northants
  • Posts: 290
    • 2000W Facelift 2.5V6 Elit
    • View Profile
Re: Nissan Micra Steering/Stability problem
« Reply #14 on: 23 October 2013, 16:53:47 »

Turns out the crossmember is OK, suffering from surface rust in places but essentially solid. I brushed the rust off and took it over to my MOT people and they had a look and said its wouldn't fail the MOT (due next month) on the current condition of the crossmember.

Even though it doesn't appear to be the cause of the perceived steering problem special thanks to Ex Taxi for getting me to check the crossmember, now I can clean it up and get some rust treatment and underseal on it before the rust eats it all away. Otherwise I would have been blissfully unaware.

It seems from my general research that light steering at speed is a feature of these very lightweight cars, as it will practically never be expected to drive at motorway speeds and I can't find anything physically wrong with the car, I won't worry about it any further.

Thanks to all for your replies, much appreciated!
 
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.033 seconds with 22 queries.