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A very close call...
« on: 05 November 2013, 09:27:11 »

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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #1 on: 05 November 2013, 10:24:20 »

Gosh.
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #2 on: 05 November 2013, 11:41:43 »

OOPS ! :o
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #3 on: 05 November 2013, 13:08:45 »

Both aircraft in each others' blind spot and one climbing / the other descending.  :(

Given that they presumably were known to each other and in radio contact they should have been able to avoid that. Looks like they were lucky to walk away.

Not sure the pilot who landed was wise to do so, TBH. If I were flying that aircraft and had a parachute (he may not have, of course) I'd have left it to its' own devices rather than risk it coming apart lower down. Exactly that decision killed a member of our gliding club a good few years back. :(
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #4 on: 05 November 2013, 13:27:59 »

Gosh.

I bet that wasn't the first word out of their mouths..
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #5 on: 05 November 2013, 13:36:50 »

Gosh.

I bet that wasn't the first word out of their mouths..

Unless 'Gosh' starts with an 'F'. ::) ::) ;)
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #6 on: 05 November 2013, 13:44:33 »

Jesus Christ!!!! I knew there was a reason I was scared of heights  ::)
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #7 on: 05 November 2013, 15:55:54 »

Could have been a lot worse . How could you make such a mistake  :(
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #8 on: 05 November 2013, 16:54:31 »

Could have been a lot worse . How could you make such a mistake  :(

Given that it appears to have been a coordinated jump I wonder why they didn't form up in such a way that the aircraft could see each other throughout. It seems one was following the other, and the sun was low in the sky. I wonder if the following aircraft lost sight of the leading aircraft and overtook it, then climbed or descended into it?

Quite apart from the risk to the aircraft, dropping parachutists with one aircraft following another seems to me to be a recipe for someone to get mashed up in a propeller. :o
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #9 on: 05 November 2013, 17:10:33 »

Could have been a lot worse . How could you make such a mistake  :(

Given that it appears to have been a coordinated jump I wonder why they didn't form up in such a way that the aircraft could see each other throughout. It seems one was following the other, and the sun was low in the sky. I wonder if the following aircraft lost sight of the leading aircraft and overtook it, then climbed or descended into it?

Quite apart from the risk to the aircraft, dropping parachutists with one aircraft following another seems to me to be a recipe for someone to get mashed up in a propeller. :o

exactly ... in all the drops I've done, and its in the hundreds - note.... flying the aircraft NOT jumping out of a fully serviceable one !! - there are only FOUR possible aircraft positions for a multi drop.... and the aircraft should ALWAYS have matched speeds

1. Aircraft at same height, wingtip to wingtip

2. Aircraft at same height, line astern, very close so as to almost be one aircraft and all jumpers leave both aircraft at the same time.

3. Aircraft at the same height, line astern, distance between depends on speed but all jumpers depart when over the same point on the ground - this ensures the jumpers from the first aircraft are well clear by the time the second aircraft reaches the ground release point - this is the most common military method, for what is called a "stream assault"

4. Aircraft at different heights, following aircraft is ALWAYS higher than lead aircraft, this ensures that as the jumpers leave the second aircraft the lead aircraft is travelling away from them faster than their forward throw, and the gap is getting bigger.

It is possible to do multi drops from aircraft of very different speeds - C130 with Dakota being one we did lots of... especially at this time of year ... but the planning and co-ordination was very meticulous to avoid any danger to the jumpers
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #10 on: 05 November 2013, 18:07:31 »

It would take more than a bump from a C130 to knock a Dakota out of the sky ::)
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #11 on: 05 November 2013, 19:26:29 »

It would take more than a bump from a C130 to knock a Dakota out of the sky ::)

True, but the 4 Alison t56-15 turbos with 15 foot Hamilton Standard propellors on the front would make a pretty severe mess of any jumper that got too close .. and that was always the worry, its easy to avoid another aircraft - providing you keep a decent lookout - far harder to spot and avoid a parachutist !!
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Re: A very close call...
« Reply #12 on: 05 November 2013, 19:58:50 »

Especially at night :-\
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