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[Richie London]

what do you think??
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23494246-details/Drama+as+top+Tory+quits/article.do

[albitz]

he is the only politician who i have been quite impressed in recent years (i thought the tories should have chose him over dave from eton) and it would appear that he is willing to risk his career to do something about the fast disappearance of traditional freedom and liberty from this country.

[Richie London]

agreed. its getting beyond a joke now i think,  it'll be against the law to critisise the govt soon

[albitz]

some would say it already is.

[Leomas]

It certainly is if you are within sight of the Palace of Westminster

[albitz]

or if you are a pensioner and lifelong labour member who calls jack straw a liar at the annual conference.you get dragged outside by big security guards and then get arrested under anti terror laws.

[miggy]

Revolution......bring it on

[albitz]

i am already revolting.

[miggy]

i am already revolting.

I know...i can smell you from here...

[stuart30]

This country needs too take a look around the world and have a serious think about our government and how we simply roll over and let them rodger us.

Prime example...in the Philippines if the people have had enough of say high petrol prices or price of food or there president has cheated them then ""People Power"" take action....just normal everyday people like us all unite in the capital sometimes over a million people and they demand they government or the president does something about the petrol price or what ever it is they are rallying about.

Until this country has the backbone too actually stand up and be counted as a united nation then the government will keep stiffing us.

[FRE07962128]

Good for DD!!  That is "conviction" politics in action and we need more of it!  

[Omegaani]

At this stage it's hard to see what he's up to. If he's really bothered by the 42 days law on principle then he should fight it with the aim of actually defeating it. Since this move only damages the Conservatives (it exposes their half-heartedness on the issue) and himself (he'll stand either unopposed or against the Monster Raving Loony Party, both options making a mockery of his fight) then he's either politically naive or has another motive (such as positioning for a leadership challenge down the road).

The 42 day detention legislation is actually quite popular with the British public, so grandstanding on the issue is not the best way to address it.

[Entwood]

At this stage it's hard to see what he's up to. If he's really bothered by the 42 days law on principle then he should fight it with the aim of actually defeating it. Since this move only damages the Conservatives (it exposes their half-heartedness on the issue) and himself (he'll stand either unopposed or against the Monster Raving Loony Party, both options making a mockery of his fight) then he's either politically naive or has another motive (such as positioning for a leadership challenge down the road).

The 42 day detention legislation is actually quite popular with the British public, so grandstanding on the issue is not the best way to address it.

I disagree ..  that statement has not been proven in any way ... it has been "voiced" as being popular by some of the tabloids .. but that is very different to actually being true ... Just 'cos a redtop paper prints it don't make anything true ....

 

[Omegaani]

"Up until yesterday I took a view that what we did in the House of Commons representing our constituents was a noble endeavour because for centuries of forebears we defended the freedom of people. Well, we did, up until yesterday."


No, David, you did up until 11th March 2008, when the Commons decided to clear the way to ratify the Lisbon Treaty (EU Constitution), handing over 80% of UK sovereignty to the EU without consulting the people. If you had any principles you would have resigned as an MP over that. Undemocratic EU powers effect everyone in this country, the 42 day law effects hardly any.

Ironically, the most effective challenge to the 42 day legislation will come when some terrorist's publicly funded lawyer takes a case all the way to the European Courts, demonstrating that the UK provincial government doesn't have the remit to pass laws that (supposedly) defend national security.

You couldn't make this sh*t up.

[Omegaani]

I disagree ..  that statement has not been proven in any way ... it has been "voiced" as being popular by some of the tabloids .. but that is very different to actually being true ... Just 'cos a redtop paper prints it don't make anything true ....

An ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph showed 65 per cent of those questioned backed the government's plan, against just 30 per cent who supported the Tory position of retaining the 28-day limit.

The Telegraph supports the Tory position and the ICM poll is as objective and accurate as they ever are (i.e. they're right most of the time).