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[cem_devecioglu]

Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work.

go on then.. spend your money

[cem_devecioglu]

if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip

Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man..  but those companies had to earn money..  I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..

we have to remember cem is a "doctor""a painter""and now an engine tuner" also does a lot of internet research so must be true

painter: I have enough hands on the job experience and before that have read lots of pages

doctor : unfortunately have experienced lots of problems in the family and corrected/fixed at least 2 doctors fatal mistake  ..  and I read may be more than a graduate..

I dont claim to be tuner but I'm an engineer and no need to be too wise for a sh*t design..     if you are interested what the members think about that box, go on find the related gallery topic and read the discussions.. so many members have the same idea as me..

[cem_devecioglu]

and finally ,  do you think, if that simple box would work and make some serious gains,  would the vx/opel engineers go in the hassle of design of that complicated inlet with many tubings and control mechanisms ?

have a look at this, does it look familiar ?

[P6UL K]

What a surprise! Another thread that has opinions everywhere even when they wasn't asked for! Let him spend his money how he wants 

[milcho2005]

Well i will buy a new Mantzel.When i Put it i will Post the Dyno graphics with and without the Ugly piece of Sh*t that the stupid German tuners made Still looking for a Steinmetz body kit!
Cheers

[cem_devecioglu]

just an information ,


1.you may gain some small power gains because of very short tubing and cone filter on high rpm range but not because of that box.. 


2. you may also loose some power because your filter may suck hot air if not designed properly..


3 definitely you will loose low rpm torque which will effect your fuel..


but if you want something proper, this is a power box which is hard to use on V6 because of limited space and will be really costly
if you want to spend money do something like that