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pauls

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steering idler
« on: 08 May 2014, 10:09:53 »

I dont know if anybody has had the same issue as I am now dealing with. Purchased one of the below items
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-CARLTON-OMEGA-STEERING-IDLER-ARM-GENUINE-LEMFORDER-OEM-NEW-/190926376682?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item2c74194eea

There are rubbish.. Chris fitted mine less than a month ago and it failed its mot due to to much play. >:(

I contacted the supplier three times now and not a single response. This will be my fisrt and only purchase from them. >:(

I all I can say for them is buyer beware.
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Re: steering idler
« Reply #1 on: 08 May 2014, 12:20:05 »

This is the one I posted about on here.

Correct torque is 60nm but to take the play out it had to be done up to 100nm, but still there was some movement.

It seems the only place to get reliable idlers is the dealers. Genuine Lemforder ones don't seem to last much more than 6 months either. But Paul's was a clear copy, differNt shape casting, it was very differant to the genuine knackered one that came off.

While we all want cheaper parts and need to try these suppliers, at the same time it's important to let people know when stuff fails as well as when stuff works.

So thanks Paul for posting. One to avoid, defo.




I have today, finally asked a machinist to see if they can make the internal bush on these from Nylon. They don't have the correct oil impregnated nylon Mark recommended in stock, but will try some other stuff as a test that they do have first and see if it can be made due to the thin walls.

If not it may need to be moulded I guess.

Sadly I don't think we'll see a usable part in time for any currently failed idlers to be repaired, as they are quite busy and not charging for the experimental stages.
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Re: steering idler
« Reply #2 on: 08 May 2014, 12:38:34 »

Shaft wear?
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Re: steering idler
« Reply #3 on: 08 May 2014, 13:37:51 »

I wonder if its a fake part.

The Bilstein ones have always been a good fit and reliable and the cheap ones a naff fit and very unreliable.
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chrisgixer

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Re: steering idler
« Reply #4 on: 08 May 2014, 15:01:12 »

I wonder if its a part?

Can't see any other outcome tbh. Must have been.
« Last Edit: 08 May 2014, 15:11:30 by chrisgixer »
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Re: steering idler
« Reply #5 on: 08 May 2014, 15:10:16 »

Shaft wear?

Only way the shaft (casting that bolts to the body) can wear is if the retaining nut is loose enough, at whatever torque setting, to allow the complete idler to turn.

On the face lifts that would mean the heat shield would move as well, along with the idler inner sleeve that holds the rubber still. (The brass in the arm should then turn around the rubber, not the rubber and inner sleeve around the shaft)

The previously failed Gm idler, presumably oe, was tight.
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Re: steering idler
« Reply #6 on: 08 May 2014, 18:49:39 »

Actually, looking at that pic in the ebay link, the part the Pauls received had no casting marks on the arm. It certainly looked different anyway.
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