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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #30 on: 04 October 2014, 16:38:16 »

A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)

The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.

Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.

He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)

I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D


The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)

........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first  :-\

He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)


No Andy, I meant in general individuals who make excuses as to why their car is not insured, or they think it is, when the police stop them. These people are the menace.

As for the guy specificly mentioned in this thread he should know the rules and complete the required documents correctly.  In addition the fact that his car is "on the drive" does not stop him from using it in a moment of madness when uninsured with all the risks that implies for everyone.  A car near me was apparently "laid up" in a car park, with no tax, MOT or insurance. It didn't stop the individual occasionally using the said vehicle though, until I passed his details on and his vehicle was lifted by the DVLA.

Sorry, but there are too many people who think they can break the law and not insure their vehicle, giving lame excuses to the police when stopped. If you genuinely want to take your vehicle off the road, regardless of the tax and MOT situation, then you SORN it. Easy, simples! ;) ;)
It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.
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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #31 on: 04 October 2014, 17:45:02 »

A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)

The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.

Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.

He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)

I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D


The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)

........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first  :-\

He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)


No Andy, I meant in general individuals who make excuses as to why their car is not insured, or they think it is, when the police stop them. These people are the menace.

As for the guy specificly mentioned in this thread he should know the rules and complete the required documents correctly.  In addition the fact that his car is "on the drive" does not stop him from using it in a moment of madness when uninsured with all the risks that implies for everyone.  A car near me was apparently "laid up" in a car park, with no tax, MOT or insurance. It didn't stop the individual occasionally using the said vehicle though, until I passed his details on and his vehicle was lifted by the DVLA.

Sorry, but there are too many people who think they can break the law and not insure their vehicle, giving lame excuses to the police when stopped. If you genuinely want to take your vehicle off the road, regardless of the tax and MOT situation, then you SORN it. Easy, simples! ;) ;)

It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.

That has not changed.You never got part months refunded.

If he has paid twice who's fault is that? ::) ::) ::)

He has another, fully legal, car so he is not poor and owns two cars. If he can do that why not insure both under a multi-car policy, or sell one car if the cost is an issue.

No, as was first written, he through a tantrum over the cost after taxing and MOT'ing one of his cars and then wondered why he was fined when he had breached the regulations by not SORN'ing his vehicle. That is the simple fact, no one else's fault, not the DVLA, but his! ;)
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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #32 on: 04 October 2014, 17:50:15 »

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It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.

I agree. And as above, you're deemed to be guilty & have to prove your innocence - it should be the other way around and is in all other parts of the law.
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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #33 on: 04 October 2014, 17:51:30 »

I paid dearly for my disc and it's stopping in the screen  :y :y
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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #34 on: 04 October 2014, 17:52:56 »

Tother car is a taxi, so good luck getting both on the same policy :y

I did try to explain your last sentence to him, but he's not having it ;D
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Re: Tax Disc - Public Ignorance?
« Reply #35 on: 04 October 2014, 18:02:38 »

Tother car is a taxi, so good luck getting both on the same policy :y

I did try to explain your last sentence to him, but he's not having it ;D

Ah right, that does alter that fact then! ::) ::) ;D ;D

If he is a taxi driver though he must be loaded...................now we shall all wait for the taxi drivers on here to bite my head off!! ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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