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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #15 on: 11 June 2016, 20:27:08 »
Drivers side kick panel. Might also need to Unplug the blue? round plug by the battery assuming still got an auto loom fitted... ;)
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #16 on: 11 June 2016, 23:38:30 »
Quote from: Harris K Telemacher on 11 June 2016, 20:27:08
Drivers side kick panel. Might also need to Unplug the blue? round plug by the battery assuming still got an auto loom fitted... ;)


Will do, cheers  :y

Just thinking .............. I know i've seen one box up around were the accelerator pot is with maybe bosch on it  just before my glasses fell off my nose and I stabbed myself with a Stanley knife  :-[
Am I right in thinking that this is the alarm / central locking box and NOT the gearbox ECU ?
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #17 on: 11 June 2016, 23:53:45 »
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 11 June 2016, 23:38:30
Quote from: Harris K Telemacher on 11 June 2016, 20:27:08
Drivers side kick panel. Might also need to Unplug the blue? round plug by the battery assuming still got an auto loom fitted... ;)


Will do, cheers  :y

Just thinking .............. I know i've seen one box up around were the accelerator pot is with maybe bosch on it  just before my glasses fell off my nose and I stabbed myself with a Stanley knife  :-[
Am I right in thinking that this is the alarm / central locking box and NOT the gearbox ECU ?
Both in the same postcode ;)

If the central locking stops working, try the other one :D
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #18 on: 12 June 2016, 15:57:28 »
Okay, transmission ECU unplugged  :y

Car starts and runs with no problem

Now the TC light is on as well as the EML light  :(

Plugged I the code reader to find the good old

P0650 still there but I don't really give a toss about  ;D but also i've now got a
U2106 - (4) CAN-Bus no Communication with Transmission Control Module present  ::)

Okay, I take it that the TC lamp and new code is because i've unplugged the ECU but why the TC lamp, I haven't got a clue  :-\
I think i've found the blue plug in the middle of the 3 at the rear bulkhead side of the battery  :-\
I'm just waiting for it to cool down a bit under there so is it definite that this plug needs to be disconnected or may it cause more weird going on's  :-\
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #19 on: 12 June 2016, 16:22:38 »
Until you tell the engine ecu that it's manual, you'll be stuck with the 2106.

Just at work, so don't have the reverse light wiring to hand, but am 99% certain that the blue plug is the gearbox loom and the reverse lights are wired through the white plug... Certainly when I fitted an auto loom to the manual car the reverse light switch was the only wiring needed ;)

Ideally you want to track down a manual 2.6/3.2 loom, fit it and get tech 2 to activate cruise and tell the engine ecu that it now has a manual box.

This probably didn't take before as it was still seeing the box ecu...
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #20 on: 13 June 2016, 11:31:19 »
Okay, blue plug unplugged
Car will not turn over so I take it that the old gearbox start inhibitor goes through that plug  :-\

Anybody in OOF land got the schematics for this plug so I can see if they is a work around before I end up changing loom for a white plugged one ?
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #21 on: 13 June 2016, 11:56:42 »
Ref this white plug / loom

Is manual loom on the PFL cars the same as the FL cars ?
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #22 on: 15 June 2016, 09:03:03 »
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 13 June 2016, 11:56:42
Ref this white plug / loom

Is manual loom on the PFL cars the same as the FL cars ?
No as dispack and throttle body looms are different...
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #23 on: 15 June 2016, 11:41:18 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2016, 09:03:03
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 13 June 2016, 11:56:42
Ref this white plug / loom

Is manual loom on the PFL cars the same as the FL cars ?
No as dispack and throttle body looms are different...


Gotcha, Dr eh Gollum  ::) ;D

Thanks  :)
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #24 on: 15 June 2016, 12:04:30 »
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 13 June 2016, 11:31:19
Okay, blue plug unplugged
Car will not turn over so I take it that the old gearbox start inhibitor goes through that plug  :-\

Anybody in OOF land got the schematics for this plug so I can see if they is a work around before I end up changing loom for a white plugged one ?
Thinking this through... perhaps the ecu needs another talking to... if it can't see the gearbox ecu, then it should now accept that it's a manual car...

Without seeing it though, it's impossible to say how the wiring was tweaked to accomodate the reverse lights... assuming they work of course ;)

Perhaps Serek can elaborate for our benefits...
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #25 on: 15 June 2016, 12:07:13 »
Okay, a update on this little saga  ;)

Popped round to the masters abode last night for a bit of investigation with his Tech2 contraption  :D

It would seem that even though the initial reprogramming of all manual settings was installed on the cars engine ecu a couple of weeks ago, because the gearbox ecu was left connected by myself the engine ecu could still see this and because said gearbox ecu didn't have a gearbox to play with anymore, it decided to spit its dummy out and throw codes at me  ::) Also when it was disconnected, it got futher upset and that's why I ended up with the TC light on too  ::)

Okay, a bit more info on the cruise setup .........

After we looked at the wiring diagrams on TIS, it would seem that the V6 manual facelift cars with cruise DO have a clutch switch and this is supplied with 12 volts from a ignition live fuse / circuit, through the clutch switch and back to a pin on plug X36 on the main ecu  ;)
Even though its all reprogramed and all warning lights have gone, the revs still hang on a little but nowhere as bad as before. Whether the clutch switch has a effect on the revs hanging on a little when playing I not sure but  we will see in the near future when i've sorted out the new wiring ect.

More details to follow later on pin identification ect and i'll take a few pickys to add to the guides when its all up and working.

If i've got any of that lot wrong, i'm sure somebody will be along soon to smack my legs  ;D ;D

As always, thanks to Mark and all others who have helped (including Serek who did the spanner work in the first place)  :) 
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #26 on: 15 June 2016, 12:08:16 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2016, 12:04:30
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 13 June 2016, 11:31:19
Okay, blue plug unplugged
Car will not turn over so I take it that the old gearbox start inhibitor goes through that plug  :-\

Anybody in OOF land got the schematics for this plug so I can see if they is a work around before I end up changing loom for a white plugged one ?
Thinking this through... perhaps the ecu needs another talking to... if it can't see the gearbox ecu, then it should now accept that it's a manual car...

Without seeing it though, it's impossible to say how the wiring was tweaked to accomodate the reverse lights... assuming they work of course ;)

Perhaps Serek can elaborate for our benefits...


Stop thinking and read this lot i've just typed  :D :D :D
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Re: Clutch switch plug / what colour are the wires ?
« Reply #27 on: 15 June 2016, 12:14:18 »
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 15 June 2016, 12:08:16
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2016, 12:04:30
Quote from: tigers_gonads on 13 June 2016, 11:31:19
Okay, blue plug unplugged
Car will not turn over so I take it that the old gearbox start inhibitor goes through that plug  :-\

Anybody in OOF land got the schematics for this plug so I can see if they is a work around before I end up changing loom for a white plugged one ?
Thinking this through... perhaps the ecu needs another talking to... if it can't see the gearbox ecu, then it should now accept that it's a manual car...

Without seeing it though, it's impossible to say how the wiring was tweaked to accomodate the reverse lights... assuming they work of course ;)

Perhaps Serek can elaborate for our benefits...
Stop thinking and read this lot i've just typed  :D :D :D
Lol, ok...

Was sending you a pm instead...

Master has obviously worked some of his magic on it, so see how it goes I guess ;)

Meantime, see if you can't rustle up a 2.6 manual loom...
« Last Edit: 15 June 2016, 12:28:26 by Doctor Gollum »
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