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End of summer?
« on: 11 August 2017, 15:05:24 »

First snow in Germany



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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #1 on: 11 August 2017, 17:08:11 »

Looks like the set from a syfy movie.
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #2 on: 11 August 2017, 17:39:00 »


What summer ?

Ah yes . . . . . . global warming  ::)
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #3 on: 11 August 2017, 17:47:37 »

This morning I was looking at the Webcams in Tignes (my resort of choice) dreaming about knee deep powder all the way down Sache to Breviere in December. Well stuff me - it appeared the top of Toviere may have had the first dusting of the year.
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #4 on: 11 August 2017, 19:13:12 »

Hi tidla

It is Germanys highest building site, the Zugspitze cable cab mountain station in nearly 3000m.



@ Mister Rog

Summer was not bad here. 55 days above 25°C, 17 above 30°. Today it is a little cold, but there are 35 on the radar next week...

Omegas air condition will have to do hard work again  ;D

@ LCO112G

I know the area in summer. Drove to Cannes via Geneva on the Route Napoleon several times. Beautiful landscape...

Rolf
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #5 on: 11 August 2017, 20:10:49 »

No real surprises as the sun is going into a Maunder minimum, so expect a 5 year leading to a 0.5-1degC drop in temperatures for a 2 or 3 20-year sun cycle duration and then a 5 year lead out as the temperatures recovers. The last two Maunder minimums were from 1460-1550 which produced a cold period followed by a much colder one from 1645-1750 in what is known as a mini ice age when the Thames regularly froze.

We have also had previous warm periods with from 600AD to 1050AD being a notable 0.2 to 0.5degC warmer than it is now.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/02/11/a-2000-year-global-temperature-record/
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #6 on: 11 August 2017, 20:58:23 »

Ah but Rods, didn't you know that all our weather is man made now?  ::)
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #7 on: 11 August 2017, 21:17:28 »

Ah but Rods, didn't you know that all our weather is man made now?  ::)

Do you mean like, when I'm tending the plants in my greenhouse it seems to a bit warmer in there? :)

And once I go back outside, the temperature is back to normal. ;)
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #8 on: 11 August 2017, 21:51:32 »

Hi Sir Tigger

Basic problem is that most people can not see the difference between "weather" and "climate".

Weather is only a flashlight about the actual situation in a small region.

Climate is the sum of millions flashlights all over the world, over many years. Actually a climate period is measured over 30 years.

Climate change seems to cause long term pressure variations. So areas of high / low pressure will be situated in other positions than before and they will move slower.

Actually the pressure situation is, that UK, northern France, Benelux, northern Germany and Scandinavia are on the northside of the polarjet with cool weather. South of this zone the weather tends more to subtropic character. Between both zones a stable thunderstorm line exists, sweeping north and south a few hundred miles. We are mainly on the warm side here in Lahr deep down southwest, but a stable summer anticyclone is still missing.

Rolf
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Re: End of summer?
« Reply #9 on: 11 August 2017, 23:51:58 »

Not surprised there was snow at that altitude  ;D

It regularly snows over the Sahara, but it almost never reaches the ground, let alone settle ;)
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