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[zirk]

There Self Employed but working Under Instructions from Uber, if they work for Uber Full Time then there is a case that they could be technically Employed.

This Technically Employed vs Self Employed / Freelance / Contractor / Sub Contractors malarkey debate has been going on for years across many Industries, but as being Self Employed working under Ubers Instructions then Uber has at the very least the responsibility to ensure that they can earn the Minimum Wage, which my understanding is only achievable if your prepared to work 50+ Hours a week on a regular basis.

[Rods2]

The very nature of many self-employed doing piece work by pricing per job makes enforcing of a minimum wage virtually impossible. The key is for wages to rise by restricting unskilled migration, we don't need them. It is also bad for income tax rates in general as minimum wage workers are usually subsidised by the rest of the tax-paying workforce.

The problem with having onerous restrictions on employment and self-employment is that you end up with average mainland EU levels of unemployment of 10% plus for over 21's and 25% plus for under 21's.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Very true.  .............and all the problems we have which are associated with this have just been extended by at least two more years. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Very true.  .............and all the problems we have which are associated with this have just been extended by at least two more years. 

......and probably a lot longer if things don't go to plan.

You may actually drop off the perch before we (properly) leave the EU.

[Doctor Gollum]

Uber are a typical 'race to the bottom' company.

They make billions but pay virtually no tax. They pay their drivers a pittance with a very poor record on holiday and sickness pay.

Little wonder they have so many oddballs working for them.

The drivers are all self employed and pay a commission for the work they receive...

Last time I looked, self employed people don't get paid holidays or sick pay... actually, sick pay is  rare comodity anywhere in the real world.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Uber are a typical 'race to the bottom' company.

They make billions but pay virtually no tax. They pay their drivers a pittance with a very poor record on holiday and sickness pay.

Little wonder they have so many oddballs working for them.

The drivers are all self employed and pay a commission for the work they receive...

Last time I looked, self employed people don't get paid holidays or sick pay... actually, sick pay is  rare comodity anywhere in the real world.

When I was a lorryist I was a self employed agency worker and it was great.  I could work as much or as little as I liked and all they asked was that I let them know my availability a week in advance.  This allowed me to get on with other self employed ventures with the security of a fall back plan!    Of course I didn't get holiday or sick pay, nor was there any pension provision, but I went into it with my eyes wide open! 

On the flip side, I once worked as a self employed Sales Rep, which turned out to be a nightmare when they expected me to work 24/7!    I quit after 2 weeks when I told them I needed a day off and they said I couldn't have one.  I told them to Go Forth!    and then had to battle them for the money they owed me, which nearly ended up in court. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Today Uber chief executive Dara Khosrowshahi said he was sorry for the "mistakes we've made" after the taxi-hailing firm lost its London licence.  He added we must put things right.

So much for Uber doing no wrong!

[TD]

Today Uber chief executive Dara Khosrowshahi said he was sorry for the "mistakes we've made" after the taxi-hailing firm lost its London licence.  He added we must put things right.

So much for Uber doing no wrong!

Id like to know what they have done wrong as its unclear to me....

If they employ TFL certified drivers, which I believe they do (If you go on Ubers website and click the link to join Uber as a driver one of the first things it asks, is do you have a PH licence....

What the drivers get paid is irrelevant......its the drivers choice....if they have crap driver relations...then again its upto the driver....go work for another PH firm if not happy...

[Rods2]

Today Uber chief executive Dara Khosrowshahi said he was sorry for the "mistakes we've made" after the taxi-hailing firm lost its London licence.  He added we must put things right.

So much for Uber doing no wrong!

If you've ever been taken somebody to court over a major contract, you jump through the hoops your solicitor/barrister/QC tells you to seal off any possible off-ramps for the defendant. As it is highly likely this will go legal I shall reserve judgment on the motivation here, but hopefully, the case will be in public so we know the reasons and motivations on what is happening.