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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #45 on: 25 December 2020, 15:55:13 »

 ;D ;D
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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #46 on: 25 December 2020, 18:55:50 »

Two HHGTTG quotes in one thread, one on topic, one not.  :P

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You should probably talk to someone...

I spoke to Marvin but it just made me more depressed. :)


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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #47 on: 26 December 2020, 10:09:09 »

The only perfect Brexit would have been a WTO one. And the Eu take would have been for us to stay in...

So, by default this, or any deal for that matter, is a compromise.

That said, as compromises go, it is a pretty good deal for us as we still get our veg and cars etc but lose any further interference from the ECJ... That alone is worth a few fish that we don't currently have the facility to catch.

So, back to lunch :D
I think Boris has pushed hard for this compromise, because even he knew a WHO outcome would have been crippling for the UK, essentially wiping out the remaining manufacturing industry - which would leave generations of povety for those communities impacted - check for South Wales or the NE for industries that essentially collapsed in the 80s.  Or Sheffield that has had an unaffordable fortune spent on regeneration, yet just getting back on its feet after nearly 40 years.  Plus the "service industry" - over 70% of our GDP - would have taken a significant double hit, including loss of the biggest market, plus a huge shrinking of its domestic market.

So whilst the thought of being patriotic appeals, reality means compromises are necessary.  We voted to leave, we left (ish), democracy achieved.  As to who "won" in the negotiations, we'll have to wait for the text. It also depends on your own circumstance, for eg, fishermen who voted leave will felt they were deceived.  But its fair to say the UK needed the free trade deal more than the EU did, and anyone who thinks remotely otherwise needs to unbury their heads. So that tells me who probably got the best deal, with Boris singing the (minor) concessions as massive battle victories.
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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #48 on: 26 December 2020, 10:54:39 »

Jaime, please don’t keep us on tenterhooks any more, put us out of our suspense and tell us which way you voted.  ???
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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #49 on: 26 December 2020, 12:45:34 »

Jaime, please don’t keep us on tenterhooks any more, put us out of our suspense and tell us which way you voted.  ???
I'm not sure that he did... (not that it's any of our business which how anyone votes. Or why)  ;)

All I will say, if someone doesn't vote, they lose their right to complain about the outcome. And the outcome isn't what they voted for, then at least vote next time, or if it really annoys you, do something about it.  ;)
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Re: If there was no deal.....
« Reply #50 on: 27 December 2020, 11:06:05 »

Newly released papers from Dublin, under the 30 year rule, show how spot on Thatcher was about the direction of travel of Europe and how disturbing she found it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55454106
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