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[Doctor Gollum]

It was an example of a legitimate explanation for not wanting to go to the pub. Being uncomfortable in large crowds would be another.

Your post came across as I can't go to the pub because I am a woman which is nonsense seeing as it's now almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century.

[Doctor Gollum]

By the way, can I have my rod back please... You damn near took the transom off the boat with that bite... 

[YZ250]

But woe betide anyone else who does the same

As an aside, is that 62 years personal experience, or an informed opinion from 38-42 years (depending if you went to University or not) working with those affected?

Personal experience

That is extremely insulting to me as a biological women, let alone those who are trans!

You just cannot stop the digs and childish comments.
......

In fairness I was thrown/surprised by your reply on another thread. Dr G asked if your experience was personal, as in happened to you, or from experience gained from working with those affected. You replied personal, to which Stemo replied " Now that's been made clear, lets start talking first person instead of third person. Some good may come of this thread after all". This led me to believe that maybe you had gone through the operation.
So your experience isn't personal, you just know people affected, or have I misunderstood again. 

How did we get here from a terror attack, it's very unusual for an OOF thread to stray.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

But woe betide anyone else who does the same

As an aside, is that 62 years personal experience, or an informed opinion from 38-42 years (depending if you went to University or not) working with those affected?

Personal experience

That is extremely insulting to me as a biological women, let alone those who are trans!

You just cannot stop the digs and childish comments.
......

In fairness I was thrown/surprised by your reply on another thread. Dr G asked if your experience was personal, as in happened to you, or from experience gained from working with those affected. You replied personal, to which Stemo replied " Now that's been made clear, lets start talking first person instead of third person. Some good may come of this thread after all". This led me to believe that maybe you had gone through the operation.
So your experience isn't personal, you just know people affected, or have I misunderstood again.

How did we get here from a terror attack, it's very unusual for an OOF thread to stray.

Lizzie has a consistency that is all over the place.

Perhaps what she speaks is 'her truth'.....

Meghan Markle is a 'her truth' kind of girl so it is a very popular at the moment. 
 

[Lizzie Zoom]

But woe betide anyone else who does the same

As an aside, is that 62 years personal experience, or an informed opinion from 38-42 years (depending if you went to University or not) working with those affected?

Personal experience

That is extremely insulting to me as a biological women, let alone those who are trans!

You just cannot stop the digs and childish comments.
......

In fairness I was thrown/surprised by your reply on another thread. Dr G asked if your experience was personal, as in happened to you, or from experience gained from working with those affected. You replied personal, to which Stemo replied " Now that's been made clear, lets start talking first person instead of third person. Some good may come of this thread after all". This led me to believe that maybe you had gone through the operation.
So your experience isn't personal, you just know people affected, or have I misunderstood again. 

How did we get here from a terror attack, it's very unusual for an OOF thread to stray.

Forty years ago the condition of Gender Dysphoria affected someone very close to me in the family, and so I went on to study this subject, and ended up advising as a volunteer alongside my retail career, on it with others so effected.  I do know most of the ins and outs of it all, from back to front, top to bottom, and am now considered a specialist.  Now I am retired I have advised on this and other matters on the subject of diversity in society, as well as retail crime with Kent Police.  I now am also an advisor on terrorism with Thames Valley Police, which has links with my other work. I am vetted with the police, signed the police confidentiality agreement, and a signature of the Official Secrets Act also dating back to my retail days. Nothing that special, so end of.

So please be satisfied with that as I do not believe, or allowed, to outline all I have done or do, on a public forum.  Satisfied?  Well tough if not!   

This all changes nothing with my stance on the mis-informed, childish rubbish that I have seen posted on the Forum, by just a few.

Now, this thread is not about me, but about a serious terrorist incident in Liverpool.

Lets talk about that, which is far more interesting.

[Doctor Gollum]

Stop scaremongering.

It wasn't an orchestrated 'terror plot', but rather a convenient excuse to raise the terror level as this allows the use of different civil restrictions to be enforced (as a potential alternative to a TCV lock down).

And you're not the only person in the world to have passed Police or security vetting

[STEMO]

Most of the ins and outs........fnar fnar 

[Sir Tigger KC]

The best place for debating is the pub. Always has been.

As a women that would be the worst place for me!

Why? Plenty of women go to the pub. Your reinforcement of such stereotypical attitudes does nothing positive for gender equality.

If you had said 'as a trans person it has always been difficult for me to go out by myself and drink socially' that might actually make sense, but the whole 'woe is me, a weak and feeble woman' is, at best, cringe worthy.

Everytime I read a comment like that I picture David Walliams, with full beard saying 'I'm a Laydee...' 

Was this from 'Little Britain'?......which was very funny except  for those who love to be offended (usually on behalf of somebody else)

Yes very funny indeed, but even though it wasn't that long ago I can't imagine they'd get away with sketches like The Only Gay In The Village today? 

The world has become a poorer sadder kind of place..... 

[Raeturbo]

Yes as  Bernard used to say... it’s only a laugh in it?..