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[Varche]

You could not make it up.

US sanctions on Russia to try and end the Putin war.

The Trump war causes diesel to rocket in price

There are some mid terms coming

Let’s ring ( my mate) Putin and have him send over a shed load of diesel to get the price down so the rednecks will vote me back in

Now gas has shot up in price in Europe. How about Europe asking Putin for a shedload of gas?

[LC0112G]

I don't think it'll work.

Diesel is over $8 a gallon everywhere. Petrol is low $4 in the cheaper states, and mid $6 in the expensive states.

I simply can't see the prices dropping back to their early 2026 levels regardless of how much Trump pals up with Putin. The prices are here to stay.

[STEMO]

It's a drop in the ocean. I asked Gemini and this is it's reply:

Under the agreement announced in October 2026, Russia promised a phased release of diesel fuel into the U.S. and global markets rather than a fixed recurring monthly total:
 Initial supply: Over 300,000 metric tons immediately. 
 November supply: Another 500,000 metric tons during November. 
 Follow-up supply: 1,000,000 metric tons immediately after November, followed by a potential 3,000,000 metric tons over time (subject to refinery capacity). 
How Long Would It Last in the U.S. Alone?
To put these volumes into context, the United States consumes roughly 3.6 million to 4 million barrels of diesel per day (which equals approximately 500,000 metric tons per day): 
1. The Initial 300,000 Tons:
 Converts to roughly 2.2 million barrels. 
 At normal U.S. daily consumption levels, this total initial shipment would last the U.S. about 12 to 15 hours (just over half a day).
2. The November 500,000 Tons:
 Converts to roughly 3.66 million barrels.
 This full monthly shipment for November would fulfill U.S. national diesel demand for about 1 day.
3. The Subsequent 1,000,000 Tons:
 Converts to roughly 7.33 million barrels.
 This would supply the U.S. for about 2 days.
4. The Entire Initial Pledged Package (~4.8 Million Tons Total):
 Combined, all pledged shipments over the multi-month period would meet total U.S. daily diesel demand for about 9 to 10 days.

[STEMO]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

[Varche]

So more empty words for a gullible electorate.

At least Trump says the war will be over after the mid terms.

Perhaps more concerning is where is Europe going to get the money to continue funding the Ukraine war which has,  surprisingly, turned out to not be ending anytime soon.

[Sir Tigger KC]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

No not if Zelensky has anything to do with it! 

I suspect he would be quite happy for Trumpy to lose both Houses in the Mid Terms and get impeached. 

[Doctor Gollum]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

No not if Zelensky has anything to do with it! 

I suspect he would be quite happy for Trumpy to lose both Houses in the Mid Terms and get impeached. 

He's only upset because Donald refused to give him more money. There's an argument to be made for Europe to do the same

[Sir Tigger KC]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

No not if Zelensky has anything to do with it! 

I suspect he would be quite happy for Trumpy to lose both Houses in the Mid Terms and get impeached. 

He's only upset because Donald refused to give him more money. There's an argument to be made for Europe to do the same

If Europe has to bail out France, they won't have any money to give Ukraine anyway. 

If fact it's arguable that they won't be able raise the cash to bailout France in the first place and it that happens the disorder we are seeing there at the moment will just be the hors d'œuvre. 

Vive le Brexit! 

[omega2018]

also from Gemini:

The United States is a net exporter of diesel.

Key Details

• Export Volume: The U.S. exports roughly 1.2 to 1.5 million barrels per day of diesel and other distillate fuel oils.
• Production vs. Consumption: Domestic refineries produce about 5.1 million barrels per day, while local consumption sits at approximately 3.6 million barrels per day, leaving a substantial surplus for global markets.
• Top Destinations: Major export markets include Latin America (led by Mexico and Brazil) as well as European countries relying on U.S. supplies following disruptions from Russia and the Middle East.
• Imports: While the U.S. does import small amounts of diesel (primarily from Canada to meet regional needs), these imports are vastly outweighed by exports.

[Doctor Gollum]

Getting information from AI sources is almost as reliable as getting it from the BBC 

[Varche]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

No not if Zelensky has anything to do with it! 

I suspect he would be quite happy for Trumpy to lose both Houses in the Mid Terms and get impeached. 

He's only upset because Donald refused to give him more money. There's an argument to be made for Europe to do the same

If Europe has to bail out France, they won't have any money to give Ukraine anyway. 

If fact it's arguable that they won't be able raise the cash to bailout France in the first place and it that happens the disorder we are seeing there at the moment will just be the hors d'œuvre. 

Vive le Brexit! 

There is now NO argument whatsoever to not keep supporting Ukraine - more so now the US has pulled their plug on money support. There may have been on day one. Give in to a bully now and who knows how big the Russian Empire would become.  Don’t forget that the Russian economy is geared to war-  hybrid or otherwise. Something like 35%. No wars and the economy collapses?

How much of European ( let’s not get tangled in EU or not) country’s economies GDP is “ war” ? Not enough though Germany is making a valiant effort as is Poland.

Tigger. Your glee over The current France situation. Doesn’t Europe need the UK/France nuclear deterrent? I believe that their part of the deterrent is more capable than the UK.

Never mind the contribution to the frontline(Ukraine) , I believe every European country needs to be spending 5 to 10% of gdp on proper defence from the lessons learned in modern recent conflicts.

[STEMO]

Getting information from AI sources is almost as reliable as getting it from the BBC 

Richard head. Fake noos, is it?

[STEMO]

It doesn't seem to be working, oil is up another 2% today.

[STEMO]

Everyone knows that the diesel shortage has nothing to do with Ukraine/Russia. It's a result of operation Epic Shitshow, and the subsequent closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
But, of course, Vlad has pictures of Donald balls deep into a Russian schoolgirl.
I don't know why the Don is so worried, all he has to say is "Fake noos!", and everyone agrees with him.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There is also reasonable doubt as to whether Russia can even export this small amount.

No not if Zelensky has anything to do with it! 

I suspect he would be quite happy for Trumpy to lose both Houses in the Mid Terms and get impeached. 

He's only upset because Donald refused to give him more money. There's an argument to be made for Europe to do the same

If Europe has to bail out France, they won't have any money to give Ukraine anyway. 

If fact it's arguable that they won't be able raise the cash to bailout France in the first place and it that happens the disorder we are seeing there at the moment will just be the hors d'œuvre. 

Vive le Brexit! 

There is now NO argument whatsoever to not keep supporting Ukraine - more so now the US has pulled their plug on money support. There may have been on day one. Give in to a bully now and who knows how big the Russian Empire would become.  Don’t forget that the Russian economy is geared to war-  hybrid or otherwise. Something like 35%. No wars and the economy collapses?

How much of European ( let’s not get tangled in EU or not) country’s economies GDP is “ war” ? Not enough though Germany is making a valiant effort as is Poland.

Tigger. Your glee over The current France situation. Doesn’t Europe need the UK/France nuclear deterrent? I believe that their part of the deterrent is more capable than the UK.

Never mind the contribution to the frontline(Ukraine) , I believe every European country needs to be spending 5 to 10% of gdp on proper defence from the lessons learned in modern recent conflicts.

My guess is 10 years from now Zelenskyy  will be seen as a tyrant dictator by the UK because it seems he is not answerable to anyone in Ukraine.

Don't forget we were best pals with Saddam Hussein during the seventies and eighties during the Iran/Iraq war.......and just look how that worked out.