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Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« on: 24 October 2008, 13:11:11 »

Afternoon all!

Just wanted to pick the brains of anyone with knowledge of the workings of the Rover 75.  :)

I know it's not a VX (that's why I put it in here) but a lovely lady here where I work has had a couple of issues with her Rover. Apparently it sailed through the MOT 2 weeks ago without issues and has recently been round France without a hiccup.

However, when it went in for a service this week she mentioned that the water had to be topped up every now and again. The garage have informed her that she needs a new head-gasket along with a new water pump. Whilst they are at it they are changing the cambelt and another belt as well. They told her that the sump was full of water and allegedly compression tested.

Now I'm no mechanical genius, but when oil and water mix in an engine I know you get something akin to cappucino and according to her the oil when checked by her husband was fine.

Is the HG a common fault on the 75? Or could there be another more reasonable explanation (Like the HBV on an Omega being mis-diagnosed)?

Apparently it's only covered 56,000 miles and is driven by a couple approaching their 60s, so lots of sedate driving everywhere.

Thank you in advance  :)
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #1 on: 24 October 2008, 13:14:03 »

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Afternoon all!

Just wanted to pick the brains of anyone with knowledge of the workings of the Rover 75.  :)

I know it's not a VX (that's why I put it in here) but a lovely lady here where I work has had a couple of issues with her Rover. Apparently it sailed through the MOT 2 weeks ago without issues and has recently been round France without a hiccup.

However, when it went in for a service this week she mentioned that the water had to be topped up every now and again. The garage have informed her that she needs a new head-gasket along with a new water pump. Whilst they are at it they are changing the cambelt and another belt as well. They told her that the sump was full of water and allegedly compression tested.

Now I'm no mechanical genius, but when oil and water mix in an engine I know you get something akin to cappucino and according to her the oil when checked by her husband was fine.

Is the HG a common fault on the 75? Or could there be another more reasonable explanation (Like the HBV on an Omega being mis-diagnosed)?

Apparently it's only covered 56,000 miles and is driven by a couple approaching their 60s, so lots of sedate driving everywhere.

Thank you in advance  :)

Depends which engine in the 75....they do use some K series derivatives and hence yes....head gaset is a common fault!
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #2 on: 24 October 2008, 13:17:01 »

Should have added, the K series ones were the 1.8 petrols, the 2.0 V6 petrols and the 2.5 V6 petrols
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #3 on: 24 October 2008, 13:24:35 »

If it is a 1.8 or 2.0 litre petrol ( 4 cyl ) the head gasket failure is as common as a Tottenham defeat. If it is a 2.0 or 2.5 V6 then it is not as common, the V6's are a pretty tough engine. Head gasket failure on the diesel engines is as rare as a Tottenham victory. If it does turn out to be a HG failure on a 4 cylinder petrol there is a modified HG available, this has been introduced by Land Rover who use this awfully unreliable engine in the Freelander, apparently, and those on this site who have more knowledge than me will correct me, when this modified gasket is used, along with a head skim etc the repair will be guaranteed, most garages will not guarantee a HG on a Rover as the repair normally doesn't last long.
The only other thing I have come up against with the K series engine is failure of the inlet manifold gasket ( they are rubber O rings, like the Audi logo ) which can give similar symptoms. Good Luck.
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #4 on: 24 October 2008, 19:41:11 »

If K series yes use uprated head gasket.  Also u need to remove restrictor from oil feed in block (front of block) to prevent oil leaks here - very common on this engine.  Need flow not pressure here - restrictor removal was a Rover mod to any that leaked oil from head gasket when under warranty!
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #5 on: 24 October 2008, 21:09:56 »

If the HG has gone it's relatively cheap to fix if your handy with the spanners
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #6 on: 24 October 2008, 21:37:54 »

Oh dear I 've got exactly the same symptoms on my 65 K mile 1.8 K series Freelander which is the same engine on your 75 ( if it is a 1.8 ).
For 15 months I have checked and topped up the coolent level daily by circa 50 ml. I have checked every water connection many many  times but could not find any leak. I decided to put up with it until it got worse and about 6 weeks ago I noticed emulsified oil on the dip stick when checking. Car is running OK but all the symptoms of imminent failure are there.
Failure of the inlet manifold gasket is known but usually can be diagnosed by the engine running rough for a few seconds when started due to water in the combustion chambers .
After exhaustive research I found  the way forward is to have the head properly skimmed , fit the MLS gasket ( Multi layered with steel shim ) ,steel dowels to replace the plastic items, grey thermostat . There is a thermostat repositioning kit available but there are different trains of thought on this . A modified oil rail is also available but this need severe and costly engine work which was only done by the dealers when LR were paying for it.
I've booked mine in to be done next week and getting a new water pump and timing belt at same time.
I'm just too busy to do it myself. .
It is reported on both of these sites
http://landroveradvice.myfastforum.org/index.php


http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.listthreads/sec-Motoring/category-4x4/d1b3b4ee.html

 that there is no guarantee of the problem never re occuring but the mainstays on the sites report that they have never had a return yet after these items/mods were fitted.
We'll see.
Incidently just read some of the stories on the KV6 engine they are just as bad but more expensive .
HTH's
Don
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Re: Rover 75 - Water/Coolant loss
« Reply #7 on: 24 October 2008, 22:02:50 »

If it is the 2.5 kv6,failures are very common and the replacement is a nightmare hence very few people want to do them,the 1.8 model is a pretty straight forward job and not overly hard or expensive,the dowel problem above was more of a@T@series issue with ROVER(TURBO/VITESSE/2.0 NASP).More info on rovertech.net if you search there.......i used to own rover 800,s NO LAUGHING IN THE CHEAP SEATS. ;D
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