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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #15 on: 20 November 2008, 14:52:48 »

hmm or could it be they need more money,due to the credit crunch.....i wonder
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #16 on: 20 November 2008, 16:29:58 »

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I think the EU directive to get road deaths down by so much in a ten year period which must be 6 years through now maybe 7, is behind this.

What staggered me is that the nearly 3000  deaths a year on the UK roads (that is approx EIGHT a day) is so good that the UK is second best in the world apparently. I don'yt know how they measure it. Road miles completed to deaths maybe.

I think a better approach would be to get everyone to drive "two chevrons apart" on Motorways, reduce the speed limit in towns on none arterial roads to 20, increase the speed limit on arterial roads to 40 and motorways to 80 and then educate people to allow just a small amount of time extra for every journey.

Drugs driving is to me a more serious problem. Just before I left the UK I was overtaken by someone on a dual carriageway ring road around Leicester and then at the last moment the car took the A50 exit by going up the grass , launching up the ARMCO and onto the road. Everyone was so lucky..... I have often thought the driver must have been high on something.

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doesnt work mate. there was a stretch of the M6 in cheshire that was marked out with chevrons. problem is i keep 2 chevrons behind you, somebody pulss into that gap, i slow down and keep 2 chevrons behind him, somebody else pulls into that gap and so on and so on. you end up going backwards, all it does is slow down the traffic and cause jams, they've now removed the chevrons and traffic flows freely again. total waste of tax payers money.

Road deaths in the U.K..records kept since 1926.

1926.....4886
1941....9169.
1966....7985
2007....2943.


Less deaths ....far more cars.....in my opinion mainly due to car safety and NOT speed cameras.
Now let me see .....airbags ...crumple zones.....ABS/ESP...better tyres ..better everything as regards safety.

People can ...and do ...walk away after a big accident that would have killed tham 10 times over in yesteryear.

The problem is that we are so risk averse these days....frightened of this ..frightened of that.
Let us accept that their is a certain risk in almost everything..and just enjoy our cars without the need to bring accident statistics to zero.


The roads are safer than they have ever been and speed cameras make little or no difference......GET  RID OF THEM.

Deaths on the road will go down ...as cars become safer still.... :y :y :y
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #17 on: 20 November 2008, 16:39:27 »

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I think the EU directive to get road deaths down by so much in a ten year period which must be 6 years through now maybe 7, is behind this.

What staggered me is that the nearly 3000  deaths a year on the UK roads (that is approx EIGHT a day) is so good that the UK is second best in the world apparently. I don'yt know how they measure it. Road miles completed to deaths maybe.

I think a better approach would be to get everyone to drive "two chevrons apart" on Motorways, reduce the speed limit in towns on none arterial roads to 20, increase the speed limit on arterial roads to 40 and motorways to 80 and then educate people to allow just a small amount of time extra for every journey.

Drugs driving is to me a more serious problem. Just before I left the UK I was overtaken by someone on a dual carriageway ring road around Leicester and then at the last moment the car took the A50 exit by going up the grass , launching up the ARMCO and onto the road. Everyone was so lucky..... I have often thought the driver must have been high on something.

varche



doesnt work mate. there was a stretch of the M6 in cheshire that was marked out with chevrons. problem is i keep 2 chevrons behind you, somebody pulss into that gap, i slow down and keep 2 chevrons behind him, somebody else pulls into that gap and so on and so on. you end up going backwards, all it does is slow down the traffic and cause jams, they've now removed the chevrons and traffic flows freely again. total waste of tax payers money.

Road deaths in the U.K..records kept since 1926.

1926.....4886
1941....9169.
1966....7985
2007....2943.


Less deaths ....far more cars.....in my opinion mainly due to car safety and NOT speed cameras.
Now let me see .....airbags ...crumple zones.....ABS/ESP...better tyres ..better everything as regards safety.

People can ...and do ...walk away after a big accident that would have killed tham 10 times over in yesteryear.

The problem is that we are so risk averse these days....frightened of this ..frightened of that.
Let us accept that their is a certain risk in almost everything..and just enjoy our cars without the need to bring accident statistics to zero.


The roads are safer than they have ever been and speed cameras make little or no difference......GET  RID OF THEM.

Deaths on the road will go down ...as cars become safer still.... :y :y :y



well said mate. couldnt agree more. all we got to do now is educate our children as to how to behave around roads.
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #18 on: 20 November 2008, 16:55:39 »

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I think the EU directive to get road deaths down by so much in a ten year period which must be 6 years through now maybe 7, is behind this.

What staggered me is that the nearly 3000  deaths a year on the UK roads (that is approx EIGHT a day) is so good that the UK is second best in the world apparently. I don'yt know how they measure it. Road miles completed to deaths maybe.

I think a better approach would be to get everyone to drive "two chevrons apart" on Motorways, reduce the speed limit in towns on none arterial roads to 20, increase the speed limit on arterial roads to 40 and motorways to 80 and then educate people to allow just a small amount of time extra for every journey.

Drugs driving is to me a more serious problem. Just before I left the UK I was overtaken by someone on a dual carriageway ring road around Leicester and then at the last moment the car took the A50 exit by going up the grass , launching up the ARMCO and onto the road. Everyone was so lucky..... I have often thought the driver must have been high on something.

varche



doesnt work mate. there was a stretch of the M6 in cheshire that was marked out with chevrons. problem is i keep 2 chevrons behind you, somebody pulss into that gap, i slow down and keep 2 chevrons behind him, somebody else pulls into that gap and so on and so on. you end up going backwards, all it does is slow down the traffic and cause jams, they've now removed the chevrons and traffic flows freely again. total waste of tax payers money.

Road deaths in the U.K..records kept since 1926.

1926.....4886
1941....9169.
1966....7985
2007....2943.



Less deaths ....far more cars.....in my opinion mainly due to car safety and NOT speed cameras.
Now let me see .....airbags ...crumple zones.....ABS/ESP...better tyres ..better everything as regards safety.

People can ...and do ...walk away after a big accident that would have killed tham 10 times over in yesteryear.

The problem is that we are so risk averse these days....frightened of this ..frightened of that.
Let us accept that their is a certain risk in almost everything..and just enjoy our cars without the need to bring accident statistics to zero.


The roads are safer than they have ever been and speed cameras make little or no difference......GET  RID OF THEM.

Deaths on the road will go down ...as cars become safer still.... :y :y :y


And the amazing fact is that in 1934 there were 7,000 deaths on UK roads with just 1.5 million vehicle registered :o :o.

The following year voluntary, then compulsary driving tests were introduced. 8-) 8-)

The 9,000+ deaths of 1941 were reckoned to be down to the "blackout" conditions in the UK's towns and cities, with people walking out in front of darkened vehicles, especially in the fogs. :( :(

Although we of course want road deaths to fall from the current 3,000+ per year figure (with how many millions of registered vehicles?!), it will not be solely achieved by stopping us doing 90 on a motorway, or "catching" us by speed cameras.  What we need is far more police traffic officers to take the unlicenced, uninsured, untaxed, drunk bastards off the roads! 8-) 8-) 8-)

The cash cow of the speed camera is of course politically attractive, and the Government do not want to spend real money, on real policeman, for real road safety advances were the education of the wreckless amoungs't us can be dealt with!   No that takes political guts and common sense.........I say no more!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #19 on: 20 November 2008, 17:24:14 »

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I think the EU directive to get road deaths down by so much in a ten year period which must be 6 years through now maybe 7, is behind this.

What staggered me is that the nearly 3000  deaths a year on the UK roads (that is approx EIGHT a day) is so good that the UK is second best in the world apparently. I don'yt know how they measure it. Road miles completed to deaths maybe.

I think a better approach would be to get everyone to drive "two chevrons apart" on Motorways, reduce the speed limit in towns on none arterial roads to 20, increase the speed limit on arterial roads to 40 and motorways to 80 and then educate people to allow just a small amount of time extra for every journey.

Drugs driving is to me a more serious problem. Just before I left the UK I was overtaken by someone on a dual carriageway ring road around Leicester and then at the last moment the car took the A50 exit by going up the grass , launching up the ARMCO and onto the road. Everyone was so lucky..... I have often thought the driver must have been high on something.

varche



doesnt work mate. there was a stretch of the M6 in cheshire that was marked out with chevrons. problem is i keep 2 chevrons behind you, somebody pulss into that gap, i slow down and keep 2 chevrons behind him, somebody else pulls into that gap and so on and so on. you end up going backwards, all it does is slow down the traffic and cause jams, they've now removed the chevrons and traffic flows freely again. total waste of tax payers money.

Road deaths in the U.K..records kept since 1926.

1926.....4886
1941....9169.
1966....7985
2007....2943.



Less deaths ....far more cars.....in my opinion mainly due to car safety and NOT speed cameras.
Now let me see .....airbags ...crumple zones.....ABS/ESP...better tyres ..better everything as regards safety.

People can ...and do ...walk away after a big accident that would have killed tham 10 times over in yesteryear.

The problem is that we are so risk averse these days....frightened of this ..frightened of that.
Let us accept that their is a certain risk in almost everything..and just enjoy our cars without the need to bring accident statistics to zero.


The roads are safer than they have ever been and speed cameras make little or no difference......GET  RID OF THEM.

Deaths on the road will go down ...as cars become safer still.... :y :y :y


And the amazing fact is that in 1934 there were 7,000 deaths on UK roads with just 1.5 million vehicle registered :o :o.

The following year voluntary, then compulsary driving tests were introduced. 8-) 8-)

The 9,000+ deaths of 1941 were reckoned to be down to the "blackout" conditions in the UK's towns and cities, with people walking out in front of darkened vehicles, especially in the fogs. :( :(

Although we of course want road deaths to fall from the current 3,000+ per year figure (with how many millions of registered vehicles?!), it will not be solely achieved by stopping us doing 90 on a motorway, or "catching" us by speed cameras.  What we need is far more police traffic officers to take the unlicenced, uninsured, untaxed, drunk bastards off the roads! 8-) 8-) 8-)

The cash cow of the speed camera is of course politically attractive, and the Government do not want to spend real money, on real policeman, for real road safety advances were the education of the wreckless amoungs't us can be dealt with!   No that takes political guts and common sense.........I say no more!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Yep....You are dead right about the 1941 "blackout" figures Lizzie.An all time high figure . :y :y :y
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #20 on: 20 November 2008, 17:39:50 »

I must note that we are world #2 in death accidents  :( :-[
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #21 on: 20 November 2008, 17:56:33 »

Would make for some interesting stats turning the numbers into percentages for all years

No of cars / Deaths = %
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #22 on: 20 November 2008, 18:02:15 »

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Would make for some interesting stats turning the numbers into percentages for all years

No of cars / Deaths = %

here is numbers for 2007 only

749,456 accidents
3,459 death
149,140 wounded
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #23 on: 20 November 2008, 18:04:37 »

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Would make for some interesting stats turning the numbers into percentages for all years

No of cars / Deaths = %

here is numbers for 2007 only

749,456 accidents
3,459 death
149,140 wounded
 :(

Is this just for the UK or worldwide?

Will need number of cars on the roads as well.
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Re: Points for Speeding
« Reply #24 on: 20 November 2008, 18:09:04 »

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Would make for some interesting stats turning the numbers into percentages for all years

No of cars / Deaths = %

here is numbers for 2007 only

749,456 accidents
3,459 death
149,140 wounded
 :(

Is this just for the UK or worldwide?

Will need number of cars on the roads as well.

These numbers are for Turkey..#total vehicles 13,022,945...

I'm a lazy git.. ;D

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