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Re: Great news for post Oct 2001 V6 owners
« Reply #15 on: 25 November 2008, 12:04:23 »

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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.

Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.

Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.

Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.

I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.
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« Reply #16 on: 25 November 2008, 12:18:02 »

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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.

Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.

Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.

Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.

I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.


We are not better off, we are worse off.

We have only got a few little extras based on borrowing....and that includes government spending for which we are all liable.

And anybody can drive growth that way, even Hitler managed it!

I dont see poverty levels any better than they were, there is more employment but, thats dirven by the global economy and has little to do again with this government.

I have said it for many years now, as a government you do NOT borrow during the good times......and you certianly dont throw stupid amounts of cash into public services which are ineficient, you need to streamline them first.
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Re: Great news for post Oct 2001 V6 owners
« Reply #17 on: 25 November 2008, 13:19:02 »

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In the pre-budget report today the Govt have said on road tax that "no driver in any given band will pay more than £5 extra in 2009 or £30 extra in 2010".  A major result as they previously suggested that the 3.2 V6 would end up costing £440 from next year!

post march 2001, not october
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« Reply #18 on: 25 November 2008, 14:58:20 »

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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.

Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.

Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.

Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.

I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.


We are not better off, we are worse off.

We have only got a few little extras based on borrowing....and that includes government spending for which we are all liable.

And anybody can drive growth that way, even Hitler managed it!

I dont see poverty levels any better than they were, there is more employment but, thats dirven by the global economy and has little to do again with this government.

I have said it for many years now, as a government you do NOT borrow during the good times......and you certianly dont throw stupid amounts of cash into public services which are ineficient, you need to streamline them first.

I'd tend to agree with the opinions expressed here. I'm not swayed either way by labour or the tories - in my memory (38 years young) whatever government is elected either achieves great results by building on the strong financial basis of the previous government, or achieves great results by fixing the mistakes.

Either way, in this country a new government is rarely elected until we are sick and tired of the previous one. All they then have to do is keep making promises and small changes until we discover what lousy buggers they are - then we change them again. It's cyclic, as mentioned before.

I, for one, would love to see a Prime Minister who goes entirely public about the state we as a country are in, then presents a plan (over 5 or 10 years) to fix it, with regular public debate on how they are doing, and honesty all round. That will never happen, as there are too many civil servants with their own interests at heart.

Oooo, and a Government that provides a long term plan, rather than lots of short term fixes! the Education system in particular is labouring under the strain of lots of little 'improvements' that, when joined together, place an incredible strain on the system which will eventually break.

propose a fix, WAIT TO OBSERVE THE RESULTS, then either remove it or continue to use it.

Can someone give me a hand down from my soapbox?
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