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feeutfo

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Tyre thread.
« on: 30 June 2009, 16:49:47 »

i find some of the tire review sites a bit vague and dont really trust them. But above all none are tested on the omega,would it be helpfull? An OOF tyre thread i mean.
Anybody that bothered?
Do you just chuck anything on and live with them.
Or do you, like me, find them vitally important as they are the only thing keeping you on the road?
 Mark your tires 1 to 10 perhaps? Say why you bought them, ie budget, performance, mileage etc

I guess first question is does anybody think it would be usefull? And if so, 2nd question would be whats the best way to go about it? ie some sort of categorisation ? Or just post what you have and a few words. Might be a mare to sort out thorougly?
 Anyone any thoughts?
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #1 on: 30 June 2009, 17:04:46 »

would be useful I think.. :y

Tires are very very critical components as they are the only connections between road and you when you are flying ;)

Generally I follow tests by some magazines , some net sources ,from tire shops  and from OOF..

here are some experinces from used tire info

Micheline Energy - long life but bad grip [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

Hankook -long life -avg grip [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

good year ventura-long life and above avg grip [smiley=thumbup.gif]

pirelli p6000 - medium life -avg grip

goodyear excellence - long life -good grip [smiley=thumbup.gif]

good year hydragrip -long life -very good grip in wet but low comfort.. [smiley=thumbup.gif]

bridgestone Turanza er300 - above avg life , good grip and comfort.. [smiley=thumbup.gif]

bridgestone potenza- definitely all series deserve the ratings  [smiley=thumbup.gif]

kumho ku31 - although a budget tire the friends who used recommend it and tests results are ok [smiley=thumbup.gif]

which I can remember now :y

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for winter :

lassa snoways  [smiley=thumbup.gif]

goodyear  UG 500, ug7 [smiley=thumbup.gif]

bridgestone blizzak [smiley=thumbup.gif]








« Last Edit: 30 June 2009, 17:10:52 by cem_devecioglu »
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amigov6

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #2 on: 30 June 2009, 17:24:13 »

I bought the Beastie from Hotel21 with Goodyear Eagles F1's which i'm told the police still use & i have to admit they do one hell of a job holding nearly 2t of Mig in line with a loose nut at the wheel!!! Top price is £180 a corner but i have looked about & found some 235/45/17's @ about £85 a corner so i reckon i'll replace with same when time comes.
   There's also the safety aspect to consider ie braking distances etc. :y
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feeutfo

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #3 on: 30 June 2009, 20:18:46 »

falken 912s on 235 45 17 wheels and had 452s(?) on my previous 2.5 cdx common theme between the 2 seems to be quiet cabin and comfortable ride, price is fair at £75 a corner fitted and balanced about 10 months ago for the 912s.
 
News start going downhill from there as the grip is not as good as the previous model but mileage/life is better, probably as designed in the falken range so fair enough i suppose. However there is noticeably less grip than the above mentioned goodyear eagles that came on the rear when i got the car.(912s quieter though)
I would have these again bar one issue, straightline accuracy or tramlining, they are all over the place in line 1 of the motorway and a hand full on B roads.
Another member tried my fronts and found then to wonder off for no reason. A trait that is certainly quite worrying on occasion with the full set fitted. Def time for a change as i spent most of my ownership of both cars looking for suspension play and fitting firmer bushes front and back only to find its the bloody falkens at fault.
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feeutfo

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #4 on: 06 July 2009, 19:13:17 »

maybe this would be better in general car chat? Or is just to plain boring? :-)
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KillerWatt

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2009, 19:23:11 »

Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.
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yatesDELTA

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #6 on: 06 July 2009, 19:41:59 »

mmmm mine are 4 diferent brands, dont know which ones they are with varying degrees of tread left. i think 2 of them could do with replacing soon. I hope i dont get a puncture becuase the space is basically slick.
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #7 on: 06 July 2009, 19:42:48 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
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KillerWatt

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #8 on: 06 July 2009, 20:03:36 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
If you really know how to drive, you won't need the electronic bull*hit and you will already be aware of the capabilities of your tyres  ;)
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #9 on: 06 July 2009, 20:09:58 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
If you really know how to drive, you won't need the electronic bull*hit to start with  ;)

 ;D

in reality "electronic bull?hit" cant do nothing other than show.. the primary factor is the tire grip ..
otherwise all expensive brands would use cheapo rubbers instead  :y
« Last Edit: 06 July 2009, 20:10:16 by cem_devecioglu »
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KillerWatt

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #10 on: 06 July 2009, 20:26:28 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
If you really know how to drive, you won't need the electronic bull*hit to start with  ;)

 ;D

in reality "electronic bull?hit" cant do nothing other than show.. the primary factor is the tire grip ..
otherwise all expensive brands would use cheapo rubbers instead  :y
I would say the "primary" factor in road safety is an ability to read the road, and know the capabilities of both yourself and your vehicle.
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #11 on: 06 July 2009, 20:34:53 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
If you really know how to drive, you won't need the electronic bull*hit to start with  ;)

 ;D

in reality "electronic bull?hit" cant do nothing other than show.. the primary factor is the tire grip ..
otherwise all expensive brands would use cheapo rubbers instead  :y
I would say the "primary" factor in road safety is an ability to read the road, and know the capabilities of both yourself and your vehicle.

Seriously, if the driver cant read the road he needs an army tank for safety not a car ;D :y
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KillerWatt

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #12 on: 06 July 2009, 20:38:40 »

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Seriously, if the driver cant read the road he needs an army tank for safety not a car ;D :y
If a driver can't read the road, then it won't matter how well the rubber (or the car as a whole) performs in the handling stakes IMO.
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #13 on: 06 July 2009, 20:45:19 »

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Seriously, if the driver cant read the road he needs an army tank for safety not a car ;D :y
If a driver can't read the road, then it won't matter how well the rubber (or the car as a whole) performs in the handling stakes IMO.

back to the beginning we cant solve the problem with changing all parameters :-/

if we keep the driver parameter as good as possible , tire still becomes the primary factor ;)
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feeutfo

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Re: Tyre thread.
« Reply #14 on: 08 July 2009, 00:33:40 »

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Most cars now have a surfeit of electronics that ensure you pretty much stay on the road no matter how shite your rubber is.

try stopping with your electronics on a snowy road :D ;D :y
If you really know how to drive, you won't need the electronic bull*hit to start with  ;)

 ;D

in reality "electronic bull?hit" cant do nothing other than show.. the primary factor is the tire grip ..
otherwise all expensive brands would use cheapo rubbers instead  :y
I would say the "primary" factor in road safety is an ability to read the road, and know the capabilities of both yourself and your vehicle.

Would def. agree. Am growing increasingly impatient with capabilities of my vehicle. Why? The rather tyres are crap is why. They have their good points, but the bad points are wearing thin on my limited patients frankly. But thats the idea of this thread.
 Not everyone wants the same thing from tyres. Not everyone wants to avoid the same thing in a set tyres that i do. Some want minimum cost above all else. Some know full well they dont tear around the place and dont see the point in paying for performance they wont use and have them ware out "prematurely". Etc etc.
In reality, as said, its difficult to find the product you want without buying and trying. They dont review/test tyres on the omega anymore, if they ever did.
Personally i find mine very poor for tramlineing and general stability, and will want to make sure the next set will be better in that area. Others may just want longer lasting, or more grip, You get the idea?

 




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