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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #30 on: 21 September 2009, 20:41:14 »

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I'm currently watching some chick-flick comedy recorded on freeview BBC3 upscaled to 1080p, and it looks DVD quality to me, but with stereo sound.
If it was being properly upscaled then it should be BD quality surely?

I've said it more than once, but I'll say it again.......upscaling isn't worth crap, becaise you CANNOT generate information that doesn't exist to start with.


I disagree upscaling does work, don't ask me how but it does.  :y
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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #31 on: 21 September 2009, 20:47:26 »

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I'm currently watching some chick-flick comedy recorded on freeview BBC3 upscaled to 1080p, and it looks DVD quality to me, but with stereo sound.
If it was being properly upscaled then it should be BD quality surely?

I've said it more than once, but I'll say it again.......upscaling isn't worth crap, becaise you CANNOT generate information that doesn't exist to start with.

I'm not at all technically minded, but it sounds similar to when 2D pictures were remastered into 3D. The result was truly awful.
Nothing to do with being "awful" Steve.

Simple fact is that "true" HD is considered to be 1080p (or 1920x1080 in the case of a monitor).
However you should hold your horses on that one, because the next "argument" in the offing is the framerate of the video that is being brought in to question.

The current HD standard is considered to be 1080p/60.
That is 1080 pixels wide, with a framerate of 60 fps (frames per second).
However, a new argument put forward is that true HD should actually be 1080p/24 (that's 24 frames per second).
The reasoning behind that is quite simple, any movie you watch was originally captured at 24fps...so upscaling it for the media you buy, and then having to hardware downscale again so you can watch it will obviously involve losses along the way.

Sit back and wait another year for them to sort themselves out.
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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #32 on: 21 September 2009, 20:49:29 »

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I'm currently watching some chick-flick comedy recorded on freeview BBC3 upscaled to 1080p, and it looks DVD quality to me, but with stereo sound.
If it was being properly upscaled then it should be BD quality surely?

I've said it more than once, but I'll say it again.......upscaling isn't worth crap, becaise you CANNOT generate information that doesn't exist to start with.


I disagree upscaling does work, don't ask me how but it does.  :y
What do you mean "Don't ask you how"?

Simple law of physics that will NEVER be broken......you don't get something for nothing!
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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #33 on: 21 September 2009, 20:58:17 »

This isn't gravity were talking about!  :D
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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #34 on: 21 September 2009, 21:12:03 »

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I'm currently watching some chick-flick comedy recorded on freeview BBC3 upscaled to 1080p, and it looks DVD quality to me, but with stereo sound.
If it was being properly upscaled then it should be BD quality surely?

I've said it more than once, but I'll say it again.......upscaling isn't worth crap, becaise you CANNOT generate information that doesn't exist to start with.
Upscaling isn't the same as decent HD source (which transmitted programmes generally aren't), but a decent upscaler is more and more important as screen sizes get bigger.  All broadcast sources into a modern large panel (1920x1080) has to be upscaled one way or another, so the quality of any upscaler is important

It won't be true 720p or 1080p quality, as the info is missing.  But a good upscaler can reduce the obvious differences, plain and simple
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Re: Sky HD
« Reply #35 on: 22 September 2009, 01:37:26 »

IME, and as i understand it, upscaling tends to be more relevant to the software of your upscaling devices and Tv combination.

If you have i good TV that upscales all it needs to on its own, for example, and you then add a good upscaling dvd player, you can, but not always, get a worse picture than with a non upscaling dvd player.

Upscaling can improve your picture. But depends on the particular software working on your particular screen. It simply fills in the missing info on a bigger screen with "something" that it thinks looks better. Weather it looks better or not to you watching it on YOUR tv, well thats a whole other story. What looks good on one set up can look shite on another.

No expert on the issue as i beleive i have a quality TV, upscaling not something i need or have gone out of my way to buy, and on two occasions made the picture worse when borrowed upscaling Dvd players from mates as an experiment also, a £350 Onkyo 1080p Amp which claimed to upscale made the picture consideraly worse.

 Sky plus HD showed an improvement over sky plus, dont care how it does it. But from memory, Hd box was better when both boxs where scarted side by side. (not HD picture though obviously and had to un plug and plug in etc)

If dvd comes out same as 720p to look at, somethings not right with the tv or your 720p source/set up i would think.

Not sure re forceing a new epg download on a sky box. May loose your drive content. Not worth the bother or risk imho. Worth a google though as there are no issues when sky send it down to the dish obviously.
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