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[tunnie]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?  :-?

Not without multiroom as far as i know....

[feeutfo]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?  :-?

Not without multiroom as far as i know....

No. Sky would miss out on another pound of flesh. And is why i never bothered with the old sky box. Other tv has free view anyway, not that we ever use it.

[tunnie]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?  :-?

Not without multiroom as far as i know....

No. Sky would miss out on another pound of flesh. And is why i never bothered with the old sky box. Other tv has free view anyway, not that we ever use it.

Multiroom is like gold dust, its even hard to blag it free when you work for Sky   

[Dishevelled Den]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a   :-?

single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?

Once the card is paired to another box and depending on the subscription, it will not necessarily decode the full range of channels available with the subscription if returned to the original box.

Even if a full installation mode is used with call-back the card will still need to be paired to the box by Sky.

I run an HD service with Sky+ on a multi-room subscription.  Out of interest I changed the Sky+ box for an HD box I built from bits purchased on eBay.  I connected this up at the weekend, took the card from the Sky+ box and introduced it to the HD box.   
After doing the full installation with call-back the card decoded all the channels except the movie service which I had to ask Sky to initiate on the card by pairing it with the 'new' receiver.  When they did this I had the full range of channels available on the HD box that were so with the Sky+ box.

Although I can receive the free-to-air HD channels on the ‘new’ box should I want to receive the full range of HD channels I have available on the main box, I would need to give Sky an extra £10 pm as an additional HD charge. (Which I will not be doing)

If I were to take the card from the ‘new’ HD receiver and attempt to use it with the original Sky+ receiver I would need to ask Sky to re-pair the card with it to get the full range of channels available with the subscription.

[Allenm]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a   :-?

single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?

Once the card is paired to another box and depending on the subscription, it will not necessarily decode the full range of channels available with the subscription if returned to the original box.

Even if a full installation mode is used with call-back the card will still need to be paired to the box by Sky.

I run an HD service with Sky+ on a multi-room subscription.  Out of interest I changed the Sky+ box for an HD box I built from bits purchased on eBay.  I connected this up at the weekend, took the card from the Sky+ box and introduced it to the HD box.   
After doing the full installation with call-back the card decoded all the channels except the movie service which I had to ask Sky to initiate on the card by pairing it with the 'new' receiver.  When they did this I had the full range of channels available on the HD box that were so with the Sky+ box.

Although I can receive the free-to-air HD channels on the ‘new’ box should I want to receive the full range of HD channels I have available on the main box, I would need to give Sky an extra £10 pm as an additional HD charge. (Which I will not be doing)

If I were to take the card from the ‘new’ HD receiver and attempt to use it with the original Sky+ receiver I would need to ask Sky to re-pair the card with it to get the full range of channels available with the subscription.

Thanks, that is what I thought, Skrunties post suggested that moving a single card between 2 boxes might be possible, but I guess not.  Bloody annoying really, I can acheive the same result by moving the whole box, but just moving the card around would be easier.  Oh well,  things are never meant to be easy

[Mr Skrunts]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a   :-?

single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?

Once the card is paired to another box and depending on the subscription, it will not necessarily decode the full range of channels available with the subscription if returned to the original box.

Even if a full installation mode is used with call-back the card will still need to be paired to the box by Sky.

I run an HD service with Sky+ on a multi-room subscription.  Out of interest I changed the Sky+ box for an HD box I built from bits purchased on eBay.  I connected this up at the weekend, took the card from the Sky+ box and introduced it to the HD box.   
After doing the full installation with call-back the card decoded all the channels except the movie service which I had to ask Sky to initiate on the card by pairing it with the 'new' receiver.  When they did this I had the full range of channels available on the HD box that were so with the Sky+ box.

Although I can receive the free-to-air HD channels on the ‘new’ box should I want to receive the full range of HD channels I have available on the main box, I would need to give Sky an extra £10 pm as an additional HD charge. (Which I will not be doing)

If I were to take the card from the ‘new’ HD receiver and attempt to use it with the original Sky+ receiver I would need to ask Sky to re-pair the card with it to get the full range of channels available with the subscription.

Thanks, that is what I thought, Skrunties post suggested that moving a single card between 2 boxes might be possible, but I guess not.  Bloody annoying really, I can acheive the same result by moving the whole box, but just moving the card around would be easier.  Oh well,  things are never meant to be easy

Shames really.  As the card is key to viewing, then the card has to be moved from room to room.  This is where Sky take the mickey as I live on my own but yet would have to buy 2 more card to watch my package, in the study, bedroom or living room.  Yes I could take the second out put to annother room but then thats not HD and is defeating the point.

So my second setup is going to be a twin fresat tuner setup using the sky dish for nothing.

[Dishevelled Den]

you could get a quad LNB and put the other feed upstairs, and use it as a decoder. You won't be able to get Sky up there as its all run off your viewing card.

Maybe not get sky, unless you get extra cards. but you can have/buy a one off freeview type card that allows the old box to tun as a freeview box for free to air channels, and in the case of the Sky+ plus then record them as well.

Plus if your main card is paired to all boxes you can use it in any of the sky boxes in your home.

Can you actually do this?  I thought it was one card to one box - be very happy if wrong1

Sky will sell you a freeview card for your box, which is seperate to your subscription. One off fee (like with a digibox)

Yeah, I know about the freeview viewing card, but can you actually have a   :-?

single (subscription) viewing card paired to more than one box?

Once the card is paired to another box and depending on the subscription, it will not necessarily decode the full range of channels available with the subscription if returned to the original box.

Even if a full installation mode is used with call-back the card will still need to be paired to the box by Sky.

I run an HD service with Sky+ on a multi-room subscription.  Out of interest I changed the Sky+ box for an HD box I built from bits purchased on eBay.  I connected this up at the weekend, took the card from the Sky+ box and introduced it to the HD box.   
After doing the full installation with call-back the card decoded all the channels except the movie service which I had to ask Sky to initiate on the card by pairing it with the 'new' receiver.  When they did this I had the full range of channels available on the HD box that were so with the Sky+ box.

Although I can receive the free-to-air HD channels on the ‘new’ box should I want to receive the full range of HD channels I have available on the main box, I would need to give Sky an extra £10 pm as an additional HD charge. (Which I will not be doing)

If I were to take the card from the ‘new’ HD receiver and attempt to use it with the original Sky+ receiver I would need to ask Sky to re-pair the card with it to get the full range of channels available with the subscription.

Thanks, that is what I thought, Skrunties post suggested that moving a single card between 2 boxes might be possible, but I guess not.  Bloody annoying really, I can acheive the same result by moving the whole box, but just moving the card around would be easier.  Oh well,  things are never meant to be easy

A work around is possible if your main box is a Thompson HD receiver - even if you don't have the HD subscription -  with component (red green blue) outputs on the rear panel.

This can be linked to a remote television  - providing it has component inputs - by a suitable cable (widely available)  Although you will have to watch what appears on the main box, it's a possible solution.   

The channels can be changed remotely by using a TV Eye (or equivalent) linked by the composite co-ax cable coming from the +9 volt RF2 output on the main receiver.

[Mr Skrunts]

A work around is possible if your main box is a Thompson HD receiver - even if you don't have the HD subscription -  with component (red green blue) outputs on the rear panel.

This can be linked to a remote television  - providing it has component inputs - by a suitable cable (widely available)  Although you will have to watch what appears on the main box, it's a possible solution.   

The channels can be changed remotely by using a TV Eye (or equivalent) linked by the composite co-ax cable coming from the +9 volt RF2 output on the main receiver.

I think most boxes there is the 9v output for a second TV, mine is the Amstrad HD one and has it, down side is it's not HD.

[Dishevelled Den]

Shames really.  As the card is key to viewing, then the card has to be moved from room to room.  This is where Sky take the mickey as I live on my own but yet would have to buy 2 more card to watch my package, in the study, bedroom or living room.  Yes I could take the second out put to annother room but then thats not HD and is defeating the point.

So my second setup is going to be a twin fresat tuner setup using the sky dish for nothing.

If your main box is a Thompson with the component outputs you can carry the HD signal to a remote HD ready television and view in HD (1080i).  This is what I've done between the main box and the television in the kitchen.


So my second setup is going to be a twin fresat tuner setup using the sky dish for nothing.

I've just installed an 8 output LNB for that very purpose and when I can get a suitable satellite card for my MCE computer, I'll run the two SKY HD receivers and one MCE from that - leaving two outputs spare and the other MCE on freeview terrestrial.

[Dishevelled Den]

A work around is possible if your main box is a Thompson HD receiver - even if you don't have the HD subscription -  with component (red green blue) outputs on the rear panel.

This can be linked to a remote television  - providing it has component inputs - by a suitable cable (widely available)  Although you will have to watch what appears on the main box, it's a possible solution.   

The channels can be changed remotely by using a TV Eye (or equivalent) linked by the composite co-ax cable coming from the +9 volt RF2 output on the main receiver.

I think most boxes there is the 9v output for a second TV, mine is the Amstrad HD one and has it, down side is it's not HD.

The downside with all the new receivers from Sky Mr S - Amstrad, Pace and Samsung - is the lack of a component output.

These were only found on the initial run of Thompson receivers to cater for those customers who were running equipment that didn't have the new HDMI connection.

[Mr Skrunts]

A work around is possible if your main box is a Thompson HD receiver - even if you don't have the HD subscription -  with component (red green blue) outputs on the rear panel.

This can be linked to a remote television  - providing it has component inputs - by a suitable cable (widely available)  Although you will have to watch what appears on the main box, it's a possible solution.   

The channels can be changed remotely by using a TV Eye (or equivalent) linked by the composite co-ax cable coming from the +9 volt RF2 output on the main receiver.

I think most boxes there is the 9v output for a second TV, mine is the Amstrad HD one and has it, down side is it's not HD.

The downside with all the new receivers from Sky Mr S - Amstrad, Pace and Samsung - is the lack of a component output.

These were only found on the initial run of Thompson receivers to cater for those customers who were running equipment that didn't have the new HDMI connection.

I agree, I had words with Sky, My box has USB2, RJ45 and maybe more and is all turned off.  They say they wont fund developemrnt of the software and the sockets have never been tested.  My argument was that they must work, allthough not with sky software or the manufacturers would never have fitted them if they could not test them, and as the box's are made for Sky satelite then they must have some sort of agreement.   He then went on to say (and contradict hiself) to add that they were for competion use.  In other words if Virgin add something then do will they, untill then they stay switched off.

Plus while I am in the mood, after 5 months + I still dont have an upgraded EPG, and they were doing the upgrades at the time of install.