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[TheBoy]

My cousin is a 'leaky fitter' and is Corgi registered, I have done a fair few jobs with him so he just signs it off for me now....

I enjoy water plumbing......quite theraputic working with copper.....not into plastic yet......I know how rubber seals tend to leak when they are distrubed after 10 or so years....plus there not such fun!

As for wiring....if I cant do it then there is no way a sparky can........ow the days of 11KV live wiring....interestingly, I have been regularly testing my installs for 10+years....how many sparkys have been doing that!

My view of the regs to be quite frank is that they are a bit pointless.....the bodgers will continue to bodge, th ones who were always doing a good job and have a concience will stop.....nothing gained...

I think they do have a (small) place. When I used to work in customers homes, the number of times I drilled through electric because some git had run a T&E at an angle etc  .  And the number of bodged electrics  

Though, as you say, bodgers will still bodge, and the good guys will still do a good job.

I find copper plumbing enjoyable, except the really tight bits (I'm not built to get in tight spaces )

[Martin_1962]

I will do electrics quite happily - don't like water though - leaks worry me!!!!

I ought to get over this as we need a new sink, and I also cannot dismantle a tap in the bathroom which needs a washer.

Cannot find any tap isolators either

[Boiler Man]

£20 for a Certificate, that guy is letting the side down.

It cost on average about £1000 every 5 years for Gas ACS training and tested after, thats just to work on domestic appliances. treble that if you want to work on industrial.

Plus £200 a year for CORGI registration. Plus everything else associated in running a business. That money has to be recouped some how.

I would never recommend anyone work on Gas or the Gas part on a boiler or fire, if not trained. I've seen the aftermath of electricians, joiners and even plumbers (who should know better)when they have worked on gas with only a little knowledge.

If you get a leak on a water pipe the worst that can happen is someting gets wet. Get a gas pipe leak in a confine space and you have a potential bomb.

I personally dont think changing a programmer like for like, is a big problem. Having said that is the problem futher up the control line and you blow the new programer. They wont take it back then.

I'd draw the line at diy gas fire fitting though.

Has it been tested with a calibrated carbon monoxide tester, the fumes can kill as well as gas.

[STMO123]

£20 for a Certificate, that guy is letting the side down.

It cost on average about £1000 every 5 years for Gas ACS training and tested after, thats just to work on domestic appliances. treble that if you want to work on industrial.

Plus £200 a year for CORGI registration. Plus everything else associated in running a business. That money has to be recouped some how.

I would never recommend anyone work on Gas or the Gas part on a boiler or fire, if not trained. I've seen the aftermath of electricians, joiners and even plumbers (who should know better)when they have worked on gas with only a little knowledge.

If you get a leak on a water pipe the worst that can happen is someting gets wet. Get a gas pipe leak in a confine space and you have a potential bomb.

I personally dont think changing a programmer like for like, is a big problem. Having said that is the problem futher up the control line and you blow the new programer. They wont take it back then.

I'd draw the line at diy gas fire fitting though.

Has it been tested with a calibrated carbon monoxide tester, the fumes can kill as well as gas.

Unless its in the proximity of an electric appliance

[Taxi_Driver]

Re your test TD

Sorry I thought you said you had seen the valve driving to HTG mode? :-/

It does when controller was attached to wall and heating selected......but when i had the controller off and shorted the pins together it didnt move from the hot water only position.....so a reason i wasnt convinced that the test proved anything.

Im going to have a go tomorrow morning....as im only just in and slightly pee'd off.....Bristol airport pickup that turned into a no show.....cash job....so i dont get paid for it....3 hours wasted and a tenner of lpg!  

[Taxi_Driver]

I'd draw the line at diy gas fire fitting though.

Has it been tested with a calibrated carbon monoxide tester, the fumes can kill as well as gas.

I took the same approach as i did my discs/pads (never done them before either!) Took my time.....i used union type connectors with plenty of ptfe tape done up bloody tight!

My noise told me no gas leaks......and i have a carbon monoxide mains plug in detector....ok not brilliant....but it never made a squeak of warning (apparently is squeaks if levels start getting a bit high and screams if levels are too high)

Oh and gas fire has catalytic convertor in it so there shouldnt be any carbon monoxide being let into the room.....

[Taxi_Driver]

Now there is a Siemens RWB9 controller attached to the wall (couldnt get a horstman type at Wicks and couldnt be arsed to visit other retailers
)
Took more than 2 mins to fit tho......had to swap 3 wires about, after i worked out which ones!

And i now can have heating on without the hot water on again  

So must have been the old horstman controller acting up

Right.....im off out to earn the £37 it cost me....and some beer money for tonight  

Thanks for your help guys  

[Auto Addict]

Now there is a Siemens RWB9 controller attached to the wall (couldnt get a horstman type at Wicks and couldnt be arsed to visit other retailers
)
Took more than 2 mins to fit tho......had to swap 3 wires about, after i worked out which ones!

And i now can have heating on without the hot water on again  

So must have been the old horstman controller acting up

Right.....im off out to earn the £37 it cost me....and some beer money for tonight  

Thanks for your help guys  

I always said you should be a Taxi Driver - TD

[Boiler Man]

Well done TD

Just shows take no notice of experts.

even the ones 200 miles away

[Taxi_Driver]

Well done TD

Just shows take no notice of experts.

even the ones 200 miles away

  Well there might something not quite right with the rest of the wiring and giving the wierd symptoms.....On sat morning I did try to work out which wire did what.....but honestly you should see it   its like a birds nest gone wrong! However put it in seems to have made it up as they have gone along.....I originally thought there was one bit of chocolate block.....but no, i found another one.....wires go everwhere......so I gave up and just concentrated on the controller wiring.....It really needs a 'proper' connection block and rewiring.....a job for when the weather is warmer