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[Nickbat]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

Yep, I'm sure you have loads of pets that can fly Convair  F-102s.

And in what way was he a religious fundamentalist? :-?

[Banjax]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

Yep, I'm sure you have loads of pets that can fly Convair  F-102s.

And in what way was he a religious fundamentalist? :-?

i would look into his aptitude tests - i think its more poetic license than pilots license on his part 

he publicly stated he speaks to "god" and lets his words guide him  , errrr ok Georgie.....if you could just move away from that button now please.............


so you're a Dubya fan Nick?......will wonders never cease 

[Dishevelled Den]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

While I considered G W to have made some reckless decisions while President I would suggest that he is far from being an idiot BJ.

[Banjax]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

While I considered G W to have made some reckless decisions while President I would suggest that he is far from being an idiot BJ.

thats your prerogative Zulu  - i can only go on what he's said, what he's done and what he believes 

[Dishevelled Den]

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yep.. oil was not the whole reason.. it was #1 in the list only 

seriously, there we are witnessing a case of ambition surpassing intelligence..

actually the initial aim was changing the map in middle east during the Bush era..including my country    the proof and evidence is a bit long so I dont go in the details here.. only thing briefly I'll say is a half occupied Turkey map in Pentagon is more than enough me thinks..

now looking in iran situation within a few months it wont be an exegeration to say we will see us warplanes bombing iran :-/

one thing I'm sure, although many here wont accept,
Obama is not leading the country, he is the speaker of decision makers, nothing more..

it was #1 in the list only

I wouldn't have put it at the top of the list cem.

seriously, there we are witnessing a case of ambition surpassing intelligence

I would agree with that in terms of the military intelligence and strategic assessment being wholly inadequate to ensure a satisfactory outcome to the invasion.

actually the initial aim was changing the map in middle east

You're nearly there cem 8-) 8-)

wont be an exegeration to say we will see us warplanes bombing iran

It could well happen

Obama is not leading the country, he is the speaker of decision makers, nothing more

I quite agree with that cem.  He's a partisan politician first and foremost, not a natural leader.  This is always the trouble with falling into stride with the populist daydreamers, wide-boys, spivs, media darlings, and those whose analysis of most situations stems from half-baked utterances gleaned from second rate university lecturers who fit well into the mould that forms the hoards greatly inexperienced in anything but esoteric theory.

[Nickbat]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

Yep, I'm sure you have loads of pets that can fly Convair  F-102s.

And in what way was he a religious fundamentalist? :-?

i would look into his aptitude tests - i think its more poetic license than pilots license on his part 

he publicly stated he speaks to "god" and lets his words guide him  , errrr ok Georgie.....if you could just move away from that button now please.............


so you're a Dubya fan Nick?......will wonders never cease 

Whether or not his aptitude was high, he nevertheless flew the aircraft, which takes some doing.

As far as his belief in a deity is concerned, there are many Christians who believe in God and pray regularly and who who seek comfort and spiritual guidance. That is not fundamentalism - well, only in the minds of fundamentalist atheists, perhaps. 

[Dishevelled Den]

Im quite relieved to hear that Obama isnt making the  decisions, he,s far to dim for that job.

yep - we were far safer with religious fundamentalist Dubya  - I've owned pets smarter than that idiot )

While I considered G W to have made some reckless decisions while President I would suggest that he is far from being an idiot BJ.

thats your prerogative Zulu  - i can only go on what he's said, what he's done and what he believes 

Thank you for your understanding in this matter BJ

[Banjax]

im not going to argue about how intelligent dubya is - its rather like debating the dryness of water 

[Dishevelled Den]

im not going to argue about how intelligent dubya is - its rather like debating the dryness of water 

Thank you for your consideration BJ

[cem_devecioglu]

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yep.. oil was not the whole reason.. it was #1 in the list only 

seriously, there we are witnessing a case of ambition surpassing intelligence..

actually the initial aim was changing the map in middle east during the Bush era..including my country    the proof and evidence is a bit long so I dont go in the details here.. only thing briefly I'll say is a half occupied Turkey map in Pentagon is more than enough me thinks..

now looking in iran situation within a few months it wont be an exegeration to say we will see us warplanes bombing iran :-/

one thing I'm sure, although many here wont accept,
Obama is not leading the country, he is the speaker of decision makers, nothing more..

it was #1 in the list only

I wouldn't have put it at the top of the list cem.

seriously, there we are witnessing a case of ambition surpassing intelligence

I would agree with that in terms of the military intelligence and strategic assessment being wholly inadequate to ensure a satisfactory outcome to the invasion.

actually the initial aim was changing the map in middle east

You're nearly there cem 8-) 8-)

wont be an exegeration to say we will see us warplanes bombing iran

It could well happen

Obama is not leading the country, he is the speaker of decision makers, nothing more

I quite agree with that cem.  He's a partisan politician first and foremost, not a natural leader.  This is always the trouble with falling into stride with the populist daydreamers, wide-boys, spivs, media darlings, and those whose analysis of most situations stems from half-baked utterances gleaned from second rate university lecturers who fit well into the mould that forms the hoards greatly inexperienced in anything but esoteric theory.

I'm glad  to see, you agree wth me mostly Zulu

[Banjax]

since 1909 theres been 43 major oil spills in US waters(almost all US companies) including Red Butte Creek oil spill which polluted the Great Salt Lake in Utah 2 days ago!!! (American company - no ones bothered by that) and in the Gulf of Mexico oil continues to spew from the Taylor Energy wells(independent US oil company) after a rig was destroyed in a hurricane................on 16 September [size=14]2004[/size][/b] !!!!

seems its ok as long as its a US company