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[Elite Pete]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11762636

now before the usual braying mob start throwing rocks, ask yourself: how weak was the case against these....."terrorists".....for the governments lawyers to take one look and say "pay them-they've got a case, you dont"? 

and anyway can someone please explain why torture is used? as far as i can tell, listening to ex-military, they all say it doesnt work, victims will give you any old rubbish........i reckon the yanks are just "into" it.....freaks  :-?

As a matter of fact robust interrogation does work - but only in certain cases.

The extrordinary measures as employed in the ways suggested here seem to have become the rule rather than the exception - which from a professional point of view is not only lazy but also short-sighted and counter productive.

Successful interrogation depends on the quality of the intelligence brief being employed more than anything.

throw-in overweight and you have my last assessment at work before i left 

[jerry]

whilst have sympathy for Albs point of view re compensation for victims of terror attacks I  cant but agree with banjax and Lizzie here. The two are seperate issues and whilst those detained may have been guilty of some involvement  it looks suspiciously like there was not the evidence there to prove it. The settlement reeks of trying to get rid of a hot potatoe and to avoid opening further cans of worms. As for "interrogation" of course  there is a need to try and gain intelligence information and the ways in which you do this are never going to be particularly palatable-but then neither are the consequences of acts of terror. That said , some of the torture methods allegations ,if true, surely cannot be seen as acceptable and are (as Z pointed out) ultimately also nonproductive to boot. If it was a relative of yours and you believed them innocent how would you react to their detention and treatment? What would we be saying had it been "westerners" treated in this way by an Islamic nation?l

[Mysteryman]

I  preferred it when we had proper wars. Just drop bombs on everyone and kill as many as possible. Saved a lot of trouble.

[albitz]

I still think that Dubya and Bliar should be landed with the bill, if there is to be one. If you ask me if I am willing to pay the bill via my taxes, then my reply is "break em".
Its easy for us civvies who sleep easy in our beds at night safe in the knowledge that our establishment will somehow protect us, but we need to realise that in order to do that they will, at times, do things that we would probably rather not know about. Intelligence can be a dark and murky world to operate in, and people who live in that world , do a job that most of us would be too scared to go anywhere near. They also have to live with the conscience/memories/ consequences of their actions when they retire from it. So while they have lived this life to protect the country and allow us to sleep safe and sound as it were, they often never have that luxury themselves, even when they retire to do the garden and draw their pension
I repeat, to my knowledge at least some of these people are not British in the sense that they were born and bred here/ grew up here or even lived most of their lives here. I think it could well be a case of a flag (or passport) of convenience in case they ever need to play the "yuman rites card".