recently got sent a transcript of wilders' speech to the house of lords of march this year. Now, whilst I certainly do not agree with much of his attitude towards Islam and I confess I do not know enough about the Quran to say whether it really does state that Muslims should seek to take over the world and impose Shariah law or whether this is just certain extremist interpretation of it (just as the "bible" is interpreted so differently) but much of what he says rings a few bells. Here are a few quotes:
"my party does not have a problem with Muslims as such.There aremany moderate Muslims.`The majority are law abiding..and want to live a peaceful life...that is why I make a clear distinction between the people,the muslims, and the ideology,Islam.there are many moderate Muslims,but there is no such thing as a moderate Islam.....Islam strives for world domination..to exercise jihad...establish shariah law"
"Islam is not merely a religion, it is mainly a totalitarian ideology...wants to dominate all aspects of life...civic law to criminal law...it determines how one should eat,dress and even use the toilet.Oppression of women is good,drinking alcohol is bad"
"I believe that Islam is not compatible with our western way of life. Islam is a threat to western values..equality of men and women..homosexuals and hetrosexuals..the seperation of church and state,freedom of speech....Islam and democracy are not compatible"
"the left is facilitating islamization...the leftist elite is guilty of practising cultural relativism...they are betrayinng our hard won liberties...free speech is under attack...as George Orwell said:"if liberty means anything at all , it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear"
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a further quote from the original poster:"rebel against liberalism,or continue to die an ignominious death".
Personally, think that claims about Muslims wanting to takeover our western society are exaggerated to say the least (though doubtless that is the aim of the extremists), but the chain of thought about the liberalism of the left actively allowing the erosion of our western values and culture do ring true. Also agree with his claims that democracy and shariah law are indeed not compatible, though both Christianity and the Muslim faith can reside side by side when tolerance and respect are exercised (indeed the Ottoman Empire of old was remarkably tolerant of the pockets of Christianity within its boundries by the accounts I have read).
sorry if its all a bit political for a car forum but very many threads have touched upon this.
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