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[Lizzie_Zoom]

It is happening again with the Southern and Southeastern trains down here!  They are getting stuck to the track or/and the third rail!

Another thread has raised some memories of the 1960s on the roads.  Well on the railways the awful winter of 1962/63 saw many trains getting stuck and breaking down - well those pulled by diesels!!  Many steam engines that were standing in scrape lines suddenly were resurected and returned to the lines to save the day, clearing lines and pulling trains

An example:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl4pJwcE7JI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/media]

For the diesel fans you have some great shots to look at in this film!!

I would recommend they get the preserved engines to start pulling a few emergency trains on the southern lines,  Although there would never be enough of them to replace all electric services, they would help those poor sods being left stranded many, many, hours on frozen stuck trains.

In fact I reckon modern railways rely too much on high tech science, so bring back the old, but very realiable, techology of steam engines I say!!

PS AND bring back the dedictated railway staff of generations who kept our railways going, as in the film!!

"Stuck" trains indeed!!

[Auto Addict]

Your just an old young nostalgic, Lizzie.

[The Red Baron]

many a true word said there lizzie.

[The Red Baron]

Your just an old young nostalgic, Lizzie.

oooooo
i think i will put my tin hat on quick

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Your just an old young nostalgic, Lizzie.

You are sooooooooo right on that AA!!

Is the 'modern' world really better with its transport than then?

[Mr Skrunts]

Your just an old young nostalgic, Lizzie.

You are sooooooooo right on that AA!!

Is the 'modern' world really better with its transport than then?

Probably not Lizzie.  But we all know it's about cost cutting and profit making these days.   :-/

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Your just an old young nostalgic, Lizzie.

You are sooooooooo right on that AA!!

Is the 'modern' world really better with its transport than then?

Probably not Lizzie.  But we all know it's about cost cutting and profit making these days.   :-/

Yes that by successive governments over many years, and the awful way they treated the railways during WW1 & 2, all contributed to the decline of the railways we once knew and loved!! How they treated the dedicated railway men and women that grew up on "their" railways over generations!!    Shameful and an absolute disgrace!!

The British public are still today, in 2010, still paying for that policy with every overcrowded (speak to TB about it!), slow, delayed, "stuck", expensive train ride!!   How they are missing their local missing trains over missing lines!!!

It makes my blood boil

[Seth]

A few years back, when I was based at Treherbert, we had a Class 150 Sprinter frozen to the rails in the sidings - yes indeed Lizzie, it can, and does happen.
Had to use a Class 142 Pacer instead ....... 

On Friday last, during the blizzard-like conditions that hit South Wales and the Valleys, we achieved a normal service throughout.
A mass afternoon exodus of commuters from Cardiff saw all trunk roads gridlocked, with ten-mile journeys taking around four hours.

They should've used the train ......... 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

A few years back, when I was based at Treherbert, we had a Class 150 Sprinter frozen to the rails in the sidings - yes indeed Lizzie, it can, and does happen.
Had to use a Class 142 Pacer instead ....... 

On Friday last, during the blizzard-like conditions that hit South Wales and the Valleys, we achieved a normal service throughout.
A mass afternoon exodus of commuters from Cardiff saw all trunk roads gridlocked, with ten-mile journeys taking around four hours.

They should've used the train ......... 

Indeed it does Byron due to high tech driven small wheels!  

A steam engine with large drivers does not have that problem; just shove the regulator on, close the drain cocks, and watch those wheels heat up the rails!

[cem_devecioglu]

according to some, railways are a communist job this may explain imo

[Marks DTM Calib]

I was chatting to one of our volunteers about this at the weekend, he was a driver based at Colwick and regularly drove the east coast line on big locos and mixed traffic.

He was saying that they did stick to the rails regularly, more so if they had gone cold (cold dripping water all over the place) but, they had an abundent supply of hot ash and steam to 'de-ice' them.

But he also said the big beasts (A4's and the like) really did not do the snow and ice AT ALL. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I was chatting to one of our volunteers about this at the weekend, he was a driver based at Colwick and regularly drove the east coast line on big locos and mixed traffic.

He was saying that they did stick to the rails regularly, more so if they had gone cold (cold dripping water all over the place) but, they had an abundent supply of hot ash and steam to 'de-ice' them.

But he also said the big beasts (A4's and the like) really did not do the snow and ice AT ALL. 

Yes, on the southern it was the Merchant Navy and West Country / Battle of Britain class that were naturally very light footed and could slip like hell on wet or frozen rails

[Marks DTM Calib]

I was chatting to one of our volunteers about this at the weekend, he was a driver based at Colwick and regularly drove the east coast line on big locos and mixed traffic.

He was saying that they did stick to the rails regularly, more so if they had gone cold (cold dripping water all over the place) but, they had an abundent supply of hot ash and steam to 'de-ice' them.

But he also said the big beasts (A4's and the like) really did not do the snow and ice AT ALL. 

Yes, on the southern it was the Merchant Navy and West Country / Battle of Britain class that were naturally very light footed and could slip like hell on wet or frozen rails

I was told that a Black 5 was the weapon of choice. 

I only asked him because we have City of Truro here for a month or so and wondered how it would cope with the snow

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I was chatting to one of our volunteers about this at the weekend, he was a driver based at Colwick and regularly drove the east coast line on big locos and mixed traffic.

He was saying that they did stick to the rails regularly, more so if they had gone cold (cold dripping water all over the place) but, they had an abundent supply of hot ash and steam to 'de-ice' them.

But he also said the big beasts (A4's and the like) really did not do the snow and ice AT ALL. 

Yes, on the southern it was the Merchant Navy and West Country / Battle of Britain class that were naturally very light footed and could slip like hell on wet or frozen rails

I was told that a Black 5 was the weapon of choice. 

I only asked him because we have City of Truro here for a month or so and wondered how it would cope with the snow

That is a wonderful engine, a real pleasure to look at and see in action

Yes Mark, I believe the Black 5 was good in icy conditions, and is another reason why enginemen, in the main, liked them

[Martin_1962]

I was chatting to one of our volunteers about this at the weekend, he was a driver based at Colwick and regularly drove the east coast line on big locos and mixed traffic.

He was saying that they did stick to the rails regularly, more so if they had gone cold (cold dripping water all over the place) but, they had an abundent supply of hot ash and steam to 'de-ice' them.

But he also said the big beasts (A4's and the like) really did not do the snow and ice AT ALL. 

Yes, on the southern it was the Merchant Navy and West Country / Battle of Britain class that were naturally very light footed and could slip like hell on wet or frozen rails

I was told that a Black 5 was the weapon of choice. 

I only asked him because we have City of Truro here for a month or so and wondered how it would cope with the snow

GWR are very surefooted.

Halls are among the best of those, reckoned to be better than a Black 5 by some drivers.

CoT is pretty sure footed for its size, seen it with 8 Mark1s on, on the main line during GWR150.

Managed pretty well when it visited Glos Warwicks as well