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Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« on: 12 January 2012, 17:55:55 »

Never been a fan of wireless networks but it seems inevitable that I may have to go that route (one day  :-\ )

To keep it simple, do I have to have a router connected to the outside world to enable 2 wireless items to comunicate?

My phone for exaxple is a galaxy S2, all singing and dancing etc, but comumicates best (apartly over wireless) through a program called kies for backup/uploading etc.  Tried it manually with a data cable but it says not compatible.

I have a Dell 1720 laptop that has wireless on it, all works ok as I use it at my GF's on her wireless system.  But would my phone comunicate directly with the laptop (bypassing the need for a router?)

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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #1 on: 12 January 2012, 18:16:25 »

No you'll need a wireless router.

The router creates and manages the network which the phona and computer will then 'join' allowing them to communicate.
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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #2 on: 12 January 2012, 18:27:05 »

Never been a fan of wireless networks but it seems inevitable that I may have to go that route (one day  :-\ )

To keep it simple, 1.do I have to have a router connected to the outside world to enable 2 wireless items to comunicate?

My phone for exaxple is a galaxy S2, all singing and dancing etc, but comumicates best (apartly over wireless) through a program called kies for backup/uploading etc.  Tried it manually with a 2.data cable but it says not compatible.

I have a Dell 1720 laptop that has wireless on it, all works ok as I use it at my GF's on her wireless system.  But 3.would my phone comunicate directly with the laptop (bypassing the need for a router?)

T.I.A.  :y

1.nope.. they can communcate between their wireless (by activating MobilAP in connections)  and also through a usb cable.. (and also no need for kies-crap software)
 
2. if you want to copy some files video picture etc from mobile to lappy/ lappy to mobile normal usb cable will be simplest..(may need a driver software though ) (driver must be in kies cd if not you can download from net)
 
3. answer both in 1-2
 
one note:  you can use mobilAP  to connect your lappy to internet  via mobile using it as a router/modem..
 
 
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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #3 on: 12 January 2012, 18:27:27 »

To keep it simple, do I have to have a router connected to the outside world to enable 2 wireless items to comunicate?
Yes

My phone for exaxple is a galaxy S2, all singing and dancing etc, but comumicates best (apartly over wireless) through a program called kies for backup/uploading etc.  Tried it manually with a data cable but it says not compatible.
Kies sucks, MyPhoneExplorer is far superior.
As far as it not working with the data cable goes, all that can be wrong there is that you haven't installed the USB drivers correctly.

I have a Dell 1720 laptop that has wireless on it, all works ok as I use it at my GF's on her wireless system.  But would my phone comunicate directly with the laptop (bypassing the need for a router?)
If you are running the standard Sammy ROM, then the answer is no as you have no way of assigning a fixed IP to the phone.
You can however set up a BT link between your handset and laptop, although I don't know whether Kies will support that (MyPhoneExplorer does).
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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #5 on: 12 January 2012, 18:40:20 »

The USB data cable works finewith windows wxplorer for uploading/downloading songs/pics and video's etc.

Have backed up the phone book via google mail.

Not the end of the world not to see what kies can/cant do, was just hoping live would be easier with "smart phones" and "plug and play" technology.  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2012, 18:55:02 »

The USB data cable works finewith windows wxplorer for uploading/downloading songs/pics and video's etc.
That's because Windows has the drivers for storage devices as standard, your particular problem sounds to me like the ADB drivers haven't been installed.

Have backed up the phone book via google mail.
SuperBackup is free, and will backup your phonebook, contacts, and call logs to simple text based files (makes life very easy when transferring your phonebook to another Android handset).

Not the end of the world not to see what kies can/cant do, was just hoping live would be easier with "smart phones" and "plug and play" technology.  :-\
The only thing that Kies can do that you haven't done already in Windows Explorer is to update the handsets firmware.
I'm guessing your phone is stock, but Kies still isn't needed for firmware upgrades as the SII has a built in recovery/flash utility as standard.
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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #7 on: 13 January 2012, 00:39:45 »

The USB data cable works finewith windows wxplorer for uploading/downloading songs/pics and video's etc.
That's because Windows has the drivers for storage devices as standard, your particular problem sounds to me like the ADB drivers haven't been installed.

Have backed up the phone book via google mail.
SuperBackup is free, and will backup your phonebook, contacts, and call logs to simple text based files (makes life very easy when transferring your phonebook to another Android handset).

Not the end of the world not to see what kies can/cant do, was just hoping live would be easier with "smart phones" and "plug and play" technology.  :-\
The only thing that Kies can do that you haven't done already in Windows Explorer is to update the handsets firmware.
I'm guessing your phone is stock, but Kies still isn't needed for firmware upgrades as the SII has a built in recovery/flash utility as standard.

I agree.  Once I aquired the phone I did the usual, had a good play, linked allsorts and installed everything.  Worked out what I liked and didnt like, then took a series of screen shots with the phone, backed every thing up and did a factory reset.

Still a few things I dont like about it, I cant seem to link @msn.com accounts, hate the way camera pictures get posted to my google mail account if not carefull. Plus still hate the swipe screen that this and my Tocco have.  other than that, love the phone.

Super Backup looks good, think I had that on the first round of downloads.
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Re: Computers (again) - Wireless Networks
« Reply #8 on: 13 January 2012, 10:58:50 »

Still a few things I dont like about it, I cant seem to link @msn.com accounts,
Can you clarify what you are trying to do.

hate the way camera pictures get posted to my google mail account if not carefull.
Make sure you have Geotagging & autosync disabled.

Plus still hate the swipe screen that this and my Tocco have.
You can change that to either a pattern, password, or PIN if you so desire.

I'm running Android 4.0.3 at the moment (Ice Cream Sandwich), but if memory serves me correctly the unlock screen can be changed under "Location and Security" on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread).

You can also have a "multi-unlock" screen which uses sliders if you so desire. The app needed for that is called Jkay Deluxe Settings, but I can't remember if you need root access for it to work (I have a suspicion that root is needed).

other than that, love the phone.
I was always of the school that a phone is a phone and nothing more. I even refused to send text messages back to people when they texted me, I preferred to talk to them instead as a lot more can be said in 1 minute than can be said in a 160 character message.

My first "smartphone" was a Sony Ericcson Xperia X8 (bought it the same month it was released).
I bought it because it was small enough (3" screen) to fit in to any pocket, lightweight enough so that you wouldn't notice you had it, an incredibly loud ringer that could be heard over pretty much any amount of noise, tough enough not to break when it fell out of my pocket, and cheap enough to replace if I lost/damaged it (£110 brand new in the box offline).

I initially used it for nothing more than phone calls, but once I started using basic apps on it (eg, calender for reminders, etc) I was bitten by the "smartphone" bug and that was it. 1 year down the line from buying the X8 I decided that I needed something with a bigger screen as my peepers are starting to struggle a little bit when reading and (being an SE fanboy at the time) bought the Xperia Neo.

I was fairly happy with that until my brother came around 3 days after and showed me his SII. It took less than 30 minutes of using it for me to put the Neo back in it's box and take it back to the shop where I bought it and get it exchanged for an SII which has now all but replaced my laptop for general day to day use.
I won't say that I will never replace the handset as when the SIII is released I will more than likely go for it, but at this moment in time there is nothing out there that can seriously compete with it IMO even though the handset has been around for 1 year next month.

Even if you don't fancy running a custom ROM, I'd still recommend "rooting" your phone as it opens up a whole new world and lets you get rid of a few more of the "Samsung" niggles (eg, the ascending ringtone that you can't switch off) as well as letting you uninstall all the crap & bloatware that is pre-installed at the factory.
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