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[Banjax]

Clegg said this morning that AV is used in Australia and for electing the mayor of London.
Istr that it took many weeks of horstrading to decide who would govern Australia after the last election there ?
We dont use AV to elect the mayor of London.

......errr.....I'm pretty sure you do, but I'm not a Londoner so ask one of them 

Your wrong, Lizzie is correct.

again? 

dammit 

[albitz]

Cleggs YES campaign is being backed by............Ken Livingstone and Red Ed Miliband. I think he may be in trouble.

[Varche]

I strongly suspect that the May the 5th vote will have a truly pathetic turnout.

Have they managed to agree no change unless a minimum turnout of x% of voters?

If not we need a referendum on the minimum number of voters.........................................

[albitz]

They are currently arguing about that very point Varche.
Iirc the no Camp is arguing for a 40% turnout to make it legitimate, and the yes camp are of course arguing for a much lower figure. Very democratic eh ?

[Banjax]

its equally odd that DC was voted to lead his party through AV but thinks....and this is good....it would be too difficult for the likes of us 

yessir, much obliged to ye gov'ner thems best left to thems betters 

[Amigo]

ALL PARTIES LIE TO GET VOTED IN & IF THEY DO JUST TURN INTO A CLONE OF THE PREVIOUS PARTY WHILST BLAMING SAID PARTY FOR THIER OWN INABILITY TO CLEAR UP THE MESS LEFT BY THE LAST SHOWER.

   POLITICS IS A FARCE & A CON. THE LOWER OF THOUGHT...ME CAN SEE THIS & KNOW WE'LL NEVER CHANGE ANYTHING.
   
  THE CLEVERER & MORE THOUGHTFUL OF MIND AMONG YOU WILL CONTINUE TRY TO ANALISE & MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL BUT DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW YOU'LL NEVER CHANGE A THING.


  GENERATIONS BEFORE HAVE TRIED & FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, SADLY TO NO AVAIL.

   WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE. YOU & JEREMY DRONE MAY CARE ABOUT POLITICS BUT THE POLITICIANS YOU SUPPORT & WE HAVE NO CHOICE SO ARE fORCED INTO PATING FOR COULD'NT GIVE A TOSS ABOUT ANY OF US.

  IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY & IT ALWAYS WILL.

[Amigo]

ALL PARTIES LIE TO GET VOTED IN & IF THEY DO JUST TURN INTO A CLONE OF THE PREVIOUS PARTY WHILST BLAMING SAID PARTY FOR THIER OWN INABILITY TO CLEAR UP THE MESS LEFT BY THE LAST SHOWER.

   POLITICS IS A FARCE & A CON. THE LOWER OF THOUGHT...ME CAN SEE THIS & KNOW WE'LL NEVER CHANGE ANYTHING.
   
  THE CLEVERER & MORE THOUGHTFUL OF MIND AMONG YOU WILL CONTINUE TRY TO ANALISE & MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL BUT DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW YOU'LL NEVER CHANGE A THING.


  GENERATIONS BEFORE HAVE TRIED & FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, SADLY TO NO AVAIL.

   WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE. YOU & JEREMY DRONE MAY CARE ABOUT POLITICS BUT THE POLITICIANS YOU SUPPORT & WE HAVE NO CHOICE SO ARE fORCED INTO PATING FOR COULD'NT GIVE A TOSS ABOUT ANY OF US.

  IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY & IT ALWAYS WILL.

I slipped up with the cap lock towards the end, i mean't forced into paying for..
    Which we are. We have no opt out choice, we just have to pay & keep paying....& for what?

[Banjax]

you're the perfect civilian then - disillusioned and hopeless and unlikely to rock the boat - governments love people like you 

[albitz]

its equally odd that DC was voted to lead his party through AV but thinks....and this is good....it would be too difficult for the likes of us 

yessir, much obliged to ye gov'ner thems best left to thems betters 

If they had a proper vote, real Tories(rather than the notting hill mafia*) would have elected David Davies - the only MP who I would vote for - but he wasnt considered by the intelligentsia to be the right man to take on Blair. Wadda mistakea to makea.
* Camerons new director of strategy Andrew Cooper,once referred to the Tory faithful as "vile".