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[cem_devecioglu]

I make Cem right, we in the west need to look ourselves in the mirror and ask if we brought this on ourselves in part? Dont fund terrorism when it suits and condemn it when it doesnt. Dont retaliate for the murder of 3000 innocents with the murder of 100000 innocents - we make ourselves very easy to hate - democracy for all, unless you have oil and the brutish dictatorship we're propping up feeds our habit. Very easy to hate. Dont make it a war of good vs bad, christian vs muslim as the ludicrous retarded cowboy tried to. Killing Bin Laden will do nothing to alter the situation. Dancing in the streets over it is fairly repellant and if it were the other way around it'd be rightly condemned.

 

in the debate as Albs mentioned the term "yanks" is used.. I must note that I hate generalisations.. An ordinary American people is same like you and me.. Not willing to die in a battle which doesnt interest him.. but the decisions of the country are taken by the upper class and they had to obey to "survive" in the system including presidents (which are only the showman on the front )..  :-/

and the power of media must never be neglected on ordinary people..

[Varche]

I wonder where Osama Bin laden is being rendered for all of his knowledge right now?

The body disposed of out at sea? Just theatre for the masses!

[Nickbat]

I wonder where Osama Bin laden is being rendered for all of his knowledge right now?

The body disposed of out at sea? Just theatre for the masses!

Sorry, Varche, but I don't buy all this conspiracy talk. Burial at sea was the best possible course of action and, IMHO, highly plausible. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I suspect we would never know if they could ahev taken him alive.

I have to say that I am rather sickened by the american public response

[Varche]

I wonder where Osama Bin laden is being rendered for all of his knowledge right now?

The body disposed of out at sea? Just theatre for the masses!

Sorry, Varche, but I don't buy all this conspiracy talk. Burial at sea was the best possible course of action and, IMHO, highly plausible. 

That is just what Mr and Mrs Varche thought immediately the news was released. It is what we would have done. The end result is the same but the intel is better. 

[Kevin Wood]

I suspect we would never know if they could ahev taken him alive.

I have to say that I am rathe sickened by the american public response

Yes, they will no doubt point to extremists rejoicing over the deaths at 9/11 and other atrocities.

This was their chance to prove that they are better than that.

Kevin

[cem_devecioglu]

I suspect we would never know if they could ahev taken him alive.

I have to say that I am rather sickened by the american public response

alive means a court , a jurry and he could tell how cia trained him and give many names.. which could start another international disaster..

[albitz]

Although it isnt an edifying sight, I dont blame the Americans for their response. This guy organised the worst terrorist atrocities the world has seen - on U.S. soil. Just think for a minute of the sheer horror and evil which we witnessed on 9/11 and that might put it into perspective from their point of view.
As for the "we have brought this on ourselves nonsense" why oh why are the left always finding reasons to try to justify the evil of terrorism. I heard it for years over Northern Ireland, and they are at it again with the jihadists. It makes my blood boil.

[albitz]

Just been told that the price of oil fell today on the back of this.
Brucie bonus.

[cem_devecioglu]

not directly related to the subject.. but I wanted to share some of my thoughts about events happening in middle east.. imo us intelligency see the future danger that all those countries in the region have some "common feelings"..

 and mostly those countries have dictators in management .. and people suffer.. and us decided to change this fact.. decided to bring more democratic and friendly managements for their opinion and also for the love of black gold ..

 we will see..but I'm sure future will be full of surprises