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[Del Boy]

HID's in a reflector style headlight should hold penalty points! They're way too bright! I think you should be able to retro-fit HID's as long as they're setup on a beam setter and they are in a projector lens.

[maracus]

HID's in a reflector style headlight should hold penalty points! They're way too bright! I think you should be able to retro-fit HID's as long as they're setup on a beam setter and they are in a projector lens.

There are rules about them, they need to be in projector lenses to be legal, they need to be self levelling, I think headlamp washers must be fitted too, the light unit has to be correctly e-marked/approved for use. I'll see if I can find an Internet link..

... Just found this on a forum, can't view it ATM I'm in the sticks on an iPhone but if anyone wants to check it out feel free...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

[Entwood]

DfT position .... quite simple IMHO ...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

[Dishevelled Den]

DfT position .... quite simple IMHO ...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

Yes, clear, unequivocal and, more importantly, sensible.

[2woody]

also not legal as a statement, unclear, and just plain wrong ! ( the statement says "In our opinion" which is the same as "our opinion probably isn't right" )

HiD is safe if installed properly - it's down to the individual driver to make this so. The technology is easy, all you need is a dark road and an MOT-test machine. It is illegal to dazzle oncoming drivers whatever type of filament is fitted.

[Andy B]

also not legal as a statement, unclear, and just plain wrong ! ( the statement says "In our opinion" which is the same as "our opinion probably isn't right" )

HiD is safe if installed properly - it's down to the individual driver to make this so. The technology is easy, all you need is a dark road and an MOT-test machine. It is illegal to dazzle oncoming drivers whatever type of filament is fitted.

I don't think anyone is taking any notice of you Stu. 

[2woody]

had an interesting chat with my counterpart at DfT the other day. They know it's not enforceable.

anyhow, the gadgie in the story just doesn't like bright lights of any kind, safe or not as far as I can tell. HMG cannot do anything about that even if they wanted, it's a European Directive over which we have no power to appeal

[albitz]

I really must get my washers fitted soon.

[Andy B]

I really must get my washers fitted soon.

I suppose I should put the fuse back in for my washer pump  ............. the washers tend to not return properly   

[o-meg-a]

So in essence that DFT site is in relation to fitting of "after market" HID's....

So besides the fact that there are no washers....which i may be able to understand, fitting genuine GM HID's to my mig is entirely legal.

Simple as that.

As far as i'm concerned, i've never driven round with dirty lights anyway, as it makes a hell of a difference, even on Halogens.

And self levellers from my halogens will fit to the HID's themselves and make sure they aren't sitting too high at any point.

Mine just arrived in the post today, as well as the plugs and connectors to wire them into my Select estate

[tigers_gonads]

Mot inspection rules for headlights 

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_170.htm