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toller

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The very random brake light
« on: 20 July 2007, 18:36:54 »

This is something thats been happeneing on and off ever since i owned the car.  Basically when the engine has just been switched off the drivers side rear light stays on and will only switch off again once the engine has been restarted.

It also seems to keep blowing brake bulbs on the same light.  I replaced the bulb for my MOT earlier this year and about a week later it had gone again, it's since blown a  few times more since.

I don't even know where to start looking with this so any help would be welcome, not really a bad problem but annoying all the same.
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Re: The very random brake light
« Reply #1 on: 20 July 2007, 23:07:15 »

Well, no one's replied yet... Which probably means they're as stumped as I am.

Is it the brake light filament that is lit or the sidelight? If it's the latter, there is a parking light switch built into the indicator stalk that switches on the sidelight and tail light on the selected side if the car is parked with the indicator switch in the left or right position.

The easy answer would be that you've parked it with the indicator switch not central :y However, I suspect you've tried that. Could be the indicator switch has a problem. Does one of the sidelights at the front stay on too?

If it's the brake light that stays on it's a really wierd one.

I'd try wiggling the indicator stalk with it parked and see if it flickers / goes out. If that doesn't bear fruit, remove the cowling around the steering column and unclip the indicator stalk completely. See if that stops it.

Kevin
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Re: The very random brake light
« Reply #2 on: 21 July 2007, 08:36:28 »

I had a strange problem some time ago that may be related. Cruise control stopped working reliably. then I noticed sidelights on after shutdown.
I found incorrect double filament lamps slightly mispositioned, allowing cross feed I suppose.
Worth checking stop/tail for type and fit.
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Re: The very random brake light
« Reply #3 on: 21 July 2007, 14:18:17 »

Had a very similar experience to that described by 'Mike Collins'.

Car was a Volvo 480ES with daylight/ sidelight twin filament bulbs and
pop-up headlights.

Problem was that the pop-up headlamps wouldn't work. Haynes wiring
diagram was as much use as a chocolate fireguard, so armed with a multi-
meter and some pins, I worked out my own circuit diagram.
Took bloody days  :(

Anyway, worked out in the end that the reason my headlights were not popping up
was the sidelight/ daylight twin filament bulb. The circuits interlinked through relays,
one circuit providing an earth return for one relay which when made provided a positive
feed for another relay.

The first time the cause, same as 'Mike Collins', was the daylight filament busting and
joining with the sidelight filament. Thus the 'daylight circuit was permanently live meaning
that the relay for the headlamp actuators wouldn't energise. Result...... no headlamps!

Second time, the 2 connections on the bulb holder had weakened, with repeated bulb changes
and heat from a working circuit, and were touching when the bulb was sprung into position. They
looked normal with the bulb removed.

So check your bulb, the holder, cable connections, and what relays you have in this system.

Haven't checked out my Omega system yet, due, so far, touch wood, no problems.
Whenever I start to look at the Haynes circuit diagram, my eyes start to glaze over and
I get this strange urge to fall asleep.  ;)

Car electrics can give very strange results with just a small fault. Ask anyone who has played
with towbar electrics and the weird results they start getting when you start adding
different power and earth circuits. No wonder they're all bald.   ;D
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Re: The very random brake light
« Reply #4 on: 21 July 2007, 14:25:39 »

Nice one Grumpy. I'll put you down in my little black book in case I get a wiring problem
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