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The Cambelt Kid

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Oil flush
« on: 05 March 2008, 21:14:34 »

Hi guys,

I know this has been covered many many times before but i thought i would ask again as it's under different circumstances.

My 2.6 has just received x5 oil changes in 1k miles and will receive another couple over the next 1k.  The oil is very very clean now, so much so it has highlighted a leak from the front crank oil seal.  I plan to resolve the seal problem when the temperature outside reached double figures all day, so this will be taken care of soon enough.

Now that i've done all these oil flushes one or more of my oil filled lifters is still noisey, both from cold and when hot.  I took the advice of many users of OOF and didn't use an oil flush as it can clog up other parts of the engine.  But now as i have done quite a few oil changes, which have not cured my noisey lifters, can i now use an oil flush to try and quieten them down?

I am in two minds at the moment:-  should i remove the lifters one by one and clean them out or do i cut a corner and flush?

Cheers
Marc
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #1 on: 05 March 2008, 21:17:22 »

Worth trying lifter treatment?
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #2 on: 05 March 2008, 21:27:35 »

Thanks TB,

I'm all for doing a pro job by removing them one by and and comressing them in a vice and then to flush through with fresh oil, as per some threads on OOF.  But it's a big job for someone like me and i've never removed a cam before, let alone four of them.  Do you think there are any other benefits to doing a pro strip down and clean job?

I trust that now i've done quite a few oil flushes i have less chance of causing more problems...?

Cheers
Marc
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #3 on: 05 March 2008, 21:28:52 »

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Thanks TB,

I'm all for doing a pro job by removing them one by and and comressing them in a vice and then to flush through with fresh oil, as per some threads on OOF.  But it's a big job for someone like me and i've never removed a cam before, let alone four of them.  Do you think there are any other benefits to doing a pro strip down and clean job?

I trust that now i've done quite a few oil flushes i have less chance of causing more problems...?

Cheers
Marc

Try the lifter treatment......


If you do decide to swap them out I have a stack of spares which I can get cleaned out and primed ready to use on an exchange basis.
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2008, 21:41:27 »

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Thanks TB,

I'm all for doing a pro job by removing them one by and and comressing them in a vice and then to flush through with fresh oil, as per some threads on OOF.  But it's a big job for someone like me and i've never removed a cam before, let alone four of them.  Do you think there are any other benefits to doing a pro strip down and clean job?

I trust that now i've done quite a few oil flushes i have less chance of causing more problems...?

Cheers
Marc

Try the lifter treatment......


If you do decide to swap them out I have a stack of spares which I can get cleaned out and primed ready to use on an exchange basis.


Cheers Mark.

I will try this lifter treatment then.  

I did call Vx today to enquire about prices for lifters and they mentioned flushing to me but i wasn't interested as flushes had received such bad press on OOF.  But now i am confident that the engine is quite clean and the oil is very clean too i can't see that anything can go wrong.

Thanks for your input Marc/TB.  Thanks for the offer of lifters too, you're a star!  8-)

I take it that for normal engines with a recent history of 20k oil change intervals should avoid flushing?

Thanks

PS: Any ideas on treatment manufactures?
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #5 on: 05 March 2008, 21:43:40 »

Wynns...
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #6 on: 05 March 2008, 21:43:50 »

Hi,
A can of valve lifter treatment is well worth a try. If it can eventually work it's way through the lifter it will fix it, If it's so gunged up and nothing can get through then youv'e only lost the cost of the can of treatment which is peanuts compared to cost of cams out etc etc.

I'm pleased to say it fixed mine no prob. Took about three days though.

Roger
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #7 on: 05 March 2008, 21:48:40 »

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Hi,
A can of valve lifter treatment is well worth a try. If it can eventually work it's way through the lifter it will fix it, If it's so gunged up and nothing can get through then youv'e only lost the cost of the can of treatment which is peanuts compared to cost of cams out etc etc.

I'm pleased to say it fixed mine no prob. Took about three days though.

Roger

Nice one Roger,  did the lifter shut up while driving on the treatment?

I think they do Wynnes at my local Motor spares (Romac now i think)

Cheers guys  :y

I'll try this and report back as and when.
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #8 on: 05 March 2008, 21:54:46 »

I have used Wynns in tractor, iirc you have to leave in a while (3k or so)?
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #9 on: 06 March 2008, 22:54:04 »

Got some of the Wynns lifter treatment today.  Seems to make the top end slightly more rattly but i guess it's working it's magic.   Took a whiff from the tin before i put it and i can tell you it's very very smelly! 8-)

I will drive on the stuff for a week (250 miles) and then drop the oil.

I'll report back

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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #10 on: 07 March 2008, 12:07:07 »

I'd leave it in longer than that. It apparently needs time to do its job and it's not going to do any harm in the short term. 250 miles? Isn't that a bit OTT, even taking into account your reasons for frequent oil changes?
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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #11 on: 07 March 2008, 14:10:26 »

Agreed. The lifters are pretty much at a dead end as far as oil supply goes (hence why they get silted up) so it will take plenty of time for the additive to work its' way into them.

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Re: Oil flush
« Reply #12 on: 07 March 2008, 22:40:53 »

Thanks chaps.  I'll take your advice and leave it in for a couple of K or maybe more.

Cheers
Marc
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