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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #15 on: 23 September 2010, 08:31:43 »

ooh loads of options. I had a thought if I pull the connector off the the sender unit beneath the top hose and bridge the connector the auxulliary pump will run continuously. If the car runs cooler great, but does it prove the belt-driven pump is u.s. or is the increased flow/pressure over-coming the restricted flow caused by a partial blockage :-/??

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #16 on: 23 September 2010, 08:49:32 »

I wired the electric fans to run continually & tried clamping hoses to no avail, Finally paid 180 for a new rad.
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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #17 on: 23 September 2010, 09:00:07 »

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My non expert two pennyworth is that modern oils will last 10k miles (but change at 5k to be safe) & back flushing a rad is ineffective.
Even fully synths don't last that long it would appear.


But in the case of diesels, the oil has an additional function to carry away particulates from the combustion process - this is part of the reason that diesels turn their oil black almost straight away.

I really must change my diseasal Astra's ... it's been in about 6k-ish  :-[
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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #18 on: 23 September 2010, 09:04:46 »

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I wired the electric fans to run continually & tried clamping hoses to no avail, Finally paid 180 for a new rad.
I did that too - it made little difference. >:(
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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #19 on: 23 September 2010, 09:44:38 »

ok i will add my 2penceworth, first off the car is an auto, so the autobox chucks extra heat into the radiator and its known worn autoboxes put out a lot of heat :-/
2nd if the oil aint been changed forever then the radiator is having to dissapate all the heat from the engine as the oil just heats up because it has no good heat conductor properties left so the oil cooler aint helping as it should
TB  has aready mentioned oil squirters so wont go there as this is also an aid to cooling,
so already the rad is having to cope with at least twice its intended work rate, bottom line is now the rad is full of deposits from trying hard to do the work of three systems,and so is the thermostat and water pump probably
so first a complete service, then as said already stat, w.pump and rad, it should then run properly at the correct temp, this is all a result of improper servicing, and aint knocking you bud you didnt know, but it will pay in the long run to do it all now before you do further damage,i.e. head gasket etc?

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #20 on: 23 September 2010, 10:17:52 »

No offence taken thanks for a concise summary of the action I need to take The autobox was rebuilt completly 3 years ago i wish i had know about putting an AR35 at the time. A-se

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #21 on: 23 September 2010, 10:38:50 »

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No offence taken thanks for a concise summary of the action I need to take The autobox was rebuilt completly 3 years ago i wish i had know about putting an AR35 at the time. A-se

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thats good Martin, how many miles since then? take it is not chipped? otherwise the box would have died although one box on here isnt and its still surviving how  dont know!!! lol :y

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #22 on: 24 September 2010, 18:06:48 »

It isn't chipped I listened to the advice on this site the gearbox was done at 124K I've done around 20K on it now. Just about run in I'd say so it shouldn't be generating much heat (I hope). I haven't looked at the oil filter I hear it can all be done from the top' well apart from draining the sump of course, how do you make sure you get the filter + seal etc is it by chassis no. . Also cleaning out the inlet side of things does this involve removing the inlet manifold???? I've had the Turbo Diesel bit off when I changed the hoses (posh blue stuff) still didn't stop the oil dripping all over the top hose tho'

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #23 on: 24 September 2010, 20:08:07 »

yours is right on the changeover point for the oil filter, best way look at the filter from the top(almast at the bulkhead below the inlet manifold) small metal bolt on top you need man 938/1
big plastic top 27mm you need man 848/1 dont have the vauxh numbers ,
as to cleaning the inlet, it sounds like the intercoller could be holding a lot of oil(normal) so remove the pipe work from the inlet turbo diesel plastic and clean it all out when the car is jacked up or on ramps to do oil change look at drivers side front just on front of wheel behind the plastic wheel arch protector and you will find the i.c. its only 2 bolts and two pipes to rmove it but is a bit fiddly the first time you do it!! tip it up on its edn and drain as much oil as poss, then run some degreaser or petrol through it to clean it properly(give it a good shake when it has the fluid of your choice in it, you will be amazed at what comes out and also pleased with the performance after doing it!!

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #24 on: 28 September 2010, 13:48:50 »

Thanks for that. The numbers you mentioned I'm not sure what they mean, sorry. I've had a look at the I.C. you  say it's 2 bolts and a bit of jiggling (ooeeer) to remove it, are the bolts visible from under the car or are they hidden away up in the wheel arch. I also noticed the fan attached to I.C. is very difficult to turn by hand so I'm guessing it's seized does that need fixing/replacing or throwing away?

Thanks for  your help

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #25 on: 28 September 2010, 21:31:03 »

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No offence taken thanks for a concise summary of the action I need to take The autobox was rebuilt completly 3 years ago i wish i had know about putting an AR35 at the time. A-se

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thats good Martin, how many miles since then? take it is not chipped? otherwise the box would have died although one box on here isnt and its still surviving how  dont know!!! lol :y


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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #26 on: 28 September 2010, 21:47:56 »

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yours is right on the changeover point for the oil filter, best way look at the filter from the top(almast at the bulkhead below the inlet manifold) small metal bolt on top you need man 938/1
big plastic top 27mm you need man 848/1 dont have the vauxh numbers ,
as to cleaning the inlet, it sounds like the intercoller could be holding a lot of oil(normal) so remove the pipe work from the inlet turbo diesel plastic and clean it all out when the car is jacked up or on ramps to do oil change look at drivers side front just on front of wheel behind the plastic wheel arch protector and you will find the i.c. its only 2 bolts and two pipes to rmove it but is a bit fiddly the first time you do it!! tip it up on its edn and drain as much oil as poss, then run some degreaser or petrol through it to clean it properly(give it a good shake when it has the fluid of your choice in it, you will be amazed at what comes out and also pleased with the performance after doing it!!
I think you will it is a 36mm (black plastic cap HU848/1)
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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #27 on: 28 September 2010, 22:48:20 »

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yours is right on the changeover point for the oil filter, best way look at the filter from the top(almast at the bulkhead below the inlet manifold) small metal bolt on top you need man 938/1
big plastic top 27mm you need man 848/1 dont have the vauxh numbers ,
as to cleaning the inlet, it sounds like the intercoller could be holding a lot of oil(normal) so remove the pipe work from the inlet turbo diesel plastic and clean it all out when the car is jacked up or on ramps to do oil change look at drivers side front just on front of wheel behind the plastic wheel arch protector and you will find the i.c. its only 2 bolts and two pipes to rmove it but is a bit fiddly the first time you do it!! tip it up on its edn and drain as much oil as poss, then run some degreaser or petrol through it to clean it properly(give it a good shake when it has the fluid of your choice in it, you will be amazed at what comes out and also pleased with the performance after doing it!!
I think you will it is a 36mm (black plastic cap HU848/1)


OOPS!! yes your right i was using a 27mm socket and it must have stuck in my head!!! and the part numbers are the man filter numbers thought you may be able to use them in a car autoparts store for reference!! :y

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Re: Overheating 2.5TD
« Reply #28 on: 29 September 2010, 09:33:22 »

Vx part numbers for the oil filters are within this thread:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1164549800



And here's the 36mm low profile socket that I use:

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Low-Profile-Oil-Filter-Socket-36mm-3-8Sq-Drive-Sealey-SX114




Should you decide to source your filter from Halfords, they don't stock the (later) X25DT jobbie.
They claim that this engine doesn't exist!
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The Fram filter for the X25DT is part no CH5979ECO.
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HTH ;)
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