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does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox ECU?
« on: 03 June 2007, 22:11:01 »

I am having problems with the car, it looks like an imobiliser problem. If I fitted a replacement main ECU and key, would the car start and drive?. Would I need to get the gearbox ECU programmed to it, or would it work in 'limp home' mode until programmed?
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #1 on: 04 June 2007, 09:54:28 »

You would need a replacement engine ECU, Key fob transponders (you dont need the whole key) and the immobiliser ECU....all from a known good source and the same vehicle

The gearbox ecu etc requires no changes.

What makes you think its an immobiliser fault?
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #2 on: 04 June 2007, 10:21:06 »

Hi Mark, there is another thread in the help wanted section about 'serious limp home mode... Basically what happens is when I put the key in and turn, the immobiliser and emissions symbols flash about 6 times, then stay on, and the car wouldn't start.
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #3 on: 05 June 2007, 20:29:57 »

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Hi Mark, there is another thread in the help wanted section about 'serious limp home mode... Basically what happens is when I put the key in and turn, the immobiliser and emissions symbols flash about 6 times, then stay on, and the car wouldn't start.
I would be inclined to get the codes read...
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #4 on: 05 June 2007, 22:35:07 »

Hi, the initial code was P1740. The electrician didn't find anything new, and seemed convinced it was the imobiliser reader, which I went and bought, only after a bit of thinking, I recon its not, eg if the key bit were wrong, the imobiliser light would flash during churning, not at initial turning key to ignition. Anyone want to buy a new imobiliser reader?. I have given up, sorry but nearly 2 weeks without a car has stopped my work plans and totalled my earning capacity. I got it shipped down to the local Vaux dealer, Evans Halshaw in Dewsbury for an initial diagnosis for £65. We'll see what they say. i mean if it were bad fuel, I wouldn't know, but hopefully they would. Here's hopeing.
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #5 on: 05 June 2007, 22:49:09 »

Is yours an auto, and are you getting any gearbox warnings?
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #6 on: 06 June 2007, 08:57:14 »

yes its an auto, gearbox warnings?. The car drove fine, no problems. Very occasionally it wouldn't change up until the revs were nearly 6000rpm, but that has only happened a couple of times. If the gearbox got upset, could that stop the engine from starting?.
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #7 on: 06 June 2007, 20:04:55 »

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yes its an auto, gearbox warnings?. The car drove fine, no problems. Very occasionally it wouldn't change up until the revs were nearly 6000rpm, but that has only happened a couple of times. If the gearbox got upset, could that stop the engine from starting?.
Just thinking that last time I saw the Torque Control codes, it was the gearbox saying to engine to reduce power. Usually comes up with a P0700 though.

If it is a 2.0 or 2.2 petrol, I would say double check cam sensor...
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #8 on: 07 June 2007, 15:56:00 »

Just had the Vaux garage back on, they recon its the main ECU and want £650 to fix :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have managed to locate another ECU for a more reasonable £40, but unfortunately there is no key with it, so I can't just swap the ecu/reader/key. I have the car pass for my car but not for the scrap one. Its looks as if I am stuffed :'( :'( :'(
Is there any way of reprogramming a replacement main ECU with a different number ?  
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #9 on: 07 June 2007, 18:02:37 »

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Just had the Vaux garage back on, they recon its the main ECU and want £650 to fix :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I have managed to locate another ECU for a more reasonable £40, but unfortunately there is no key with it, so I can't just swap the ecu/reader/key. I have the car pass for my car but not for the scrap one. Its looks as if I am stuffed :'( :'( :'(
Is there any way of reprogramming a replacement main ECU with a different number ?  
You should be able to program the new ECU to the old immobilser if that helps?

Though I doubt the ECU has failed, despite what dealer says...
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #10 on: 07 June 2007, 18:24:58 »

Thanks for that. One thing Idid notice was that the switching line to the injector was sitting at 3.9v at ignition and when cranking. I didn't have a scope on it at the time, so I didn't see any switching pulses. I will maybe ask the dealer how much he wants to reprogram the new ECU, but I will make sure I have marked it before he gets it. Alternatively do you fancy a quick detour on your journey up to the Lakes?.
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #11 on: 07 June 2007, 21:44:34 »

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Thanks for that. One thing Idid notice was that the switching line to the injector was sitting at 3.9v at ignition and when cranking. I didn't have a scope on it at the time, so I didn't see any switching pulses. I will maybe ask the dealer how much he wants to reprogram the new ECU, but I will make sure I have marked it before he gets it. Alternatively do you fancy a quick detour on your journey up to the Lakes?.
Alas, we will be pushed for time, and Cleakheaton is a bit too far off course :(.  One of my female mates parents used to run a postoffice in Cleckheaton - the Moor End PO one, not far from the big roundabout...  ...spent many a weekend drinking far too much around there ;D
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Re: does main ECU needed to be coded to gerabox EC
« Reply #12 on: 07 June 2007, 22:10:43 »

OK, thanks anyway
Cheers Ken
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