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[Kevin Wood]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Adds up to a Self-adhesive navigation device. We're talking horticulture on quite a gradient here.

mountain climer I'd say.

Yep. Stopping at every ledge to plant a few bulbs, too.

So, this vertical board.. Does this form the interface between the changer and the head unit? I.E. the bit the head unit is paired with?

[VXL V6]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Adds up to a Self-adhesive navigation device. We're talking horticulture on quite a gradient here.

mountain climer I'd say.

Yep. Stopping at every ledge to plant a few bulbs, too.

So, this vertical board.. Does this form the interface between the changer and the head unit? I.E. the bit the head unit is paired with?

Yes it does

[Me]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Aye, because its the best phone currently for my needs. Well, maybe a later versin that was a bit quicker.

But I don't own a gayPod, as I think its probably the worse media player out there, partly because its ridiculously priced, and also its reliance on that god awful piece of junk, gayTunes.


As to portable Sat Nav systems, my views are well known, but I do have CoPilot on, and gets used occasionally (eg, when I'm with someone else in their car, or if I'm on the bike).  CoPilot based on cost, as it was about £25 iirc a couple of years back.  Mrs TB and I share a gayTunes account, so it ends up on both our phones

[feeutfo]

but you do have a gayphone, which you love dearly. With Tomtom I'm fairly sure.

Aye, because its the best phone currently for my needs. Well, maybe a later versin that was a bit quicker.

But I don't own a gayPod, as I think its probably the worse media player out there, partly because its ridiculously priced, and also its reliance on that god awful piece of junk, gayTunes.


As to portable Sat Nav systems, my views are well known, but I do have CoPilot on, and gets used occasionally (eg, when I'm with someone else in their car, or if I'm on the bike).  CoPilot based on cost, as it was about £25 iirc a couple of years back.  Mrs TB and I share a gayTunes account, so it ends up on both our phones

Point was, if you have gayphone, you have iPod music player on it. So don't need iPod specific device, as you already have one in the phone. Fan boy!

HK will input iPhone or anything else via the extra 3.5 input on the HK brain, although not with direct iPod control obviously.

Depend on individual needs and ease of an HU input bodge, but HK seems good enough quality via 3.5 jack. The back ground screech of the direct control input is not present. wonder if the disc drive iPod is causing the screech ?

However. If using a direct 3.5mill jack input with out iPod control, it does beg the question is HK needed at all if there is an easy input bodge to head unit capable of playing from a simple 3.5jack output. ...?

Draw back with HK is age. It's direct control function only compatible with up to something like 4th gen iPod, or whatever it is.

[Andy H]

I suspect it would be fairly trivial to fool the vertical board in the CDC3 into thinking the CD was playing, then fire in the audio to the vertical board, assuming it can be matched OK.

This would then work for CCR2006, CCRT2008 and NCDC.  And, those cars with a separate CDC3 (not Omegas, except my Silver Bullet).

TheNaughtyBoy.

There are homebrew projects on the internet that have been fairly successful at making emulators to plug into the head unit socket intended for boot mounted CD changers (CDCs) and allow audio input. The emulator connects to the digital control line (a low data rate serial interface) and responds to the head unit commands. It isn't as straight forward as it first appears because the data stream is undocumented and the emulator needs to convince the head unit that it is awake and functioning correctly.

I have found a project for VAG CDCs that seems to work quite well and another for Philips CDCs fitted to Renaults and another for Blaupunkt/Bosch units.

If the vertical riser card is talking a protocol that has already been reverse engineered by one of the homebrew projects then building an emulator may just require the download of some code to burn onto a £2 PIC

[VXL V6]

Mrs TB and I share a gayTunes account, so it ends up on both our phones

Does that mean your phone get's sync'd with Abba Gold every time!

[Kevin Wood]

If the vertical riser card is talking a protocol that has already been reverse engineered by one of the homebrew projects then building an emulator may just require the download of some code to burn onto a £2 PIC

Interesting.. PICs I can do. Got any links to such projects?

[Andy H]

If the vertical riser card is talking a protocol that has already been reverse engineered by one of the homebrew projects then building an emulator may just require the download of some code to burn onto a £2 PIC

Interesting.. PICs I can do. Got any links to such projects?

This project is aimed at VDO/Dayton units fitted to Renaults since 2000 http://tlcdcemu.sourceforge.net/ (I have this notion that Philips sold out to VDO so it might be the same protocol ). http://tlcdcemu.sourceforge.net/pic.html

There is a list of CDC protocols here http://www.mictronics.de/projects/cdc-protocols/

There are more but I have temporarily mislaid the links

[Me]

Point was, if you have gayphone, you have iPod music player on it. So don't need iPod specific device, as you already have one in the phone. Fan boy!

Nah, no music on mine. That would mean connecting it to gayTunes, which ain't liable to happen any time soon.  Saint Steve would turn in his grave if he knew my thoughts...

[tunnie]

Point was, if you have gayphone, you have iPod music player on it. So don't need iPod specific device, as you already have one in the phone. Fan boy!

Nah, no music on mine. That would mean connecting it to gayTunes, which ain't liable to happen any time soon.  Saint Steve would turn in his grave if he knew my thoughts...

Just SSH tunes to it?

[Me]

Point was, if you have gayphone, you have iPod music player on it. So don't need iPod specific device, as you already have one in the phone. Fan boy!

Nah, no music on mine. That would mean connecting it to gayTunes, which ain't liable to happen any time soon.  Saint Steve would turn in his grave if he knew my thoughts...

Just SSH tunes to it?

I wouldn't be so stupid as to leave SSH daemon installed on a crApple iOS device

But other ways of getting tunes on, but its fussy on formats.

But I have no desire to use the gayPhone as a music player.