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Re: idiots guide to plasma LCD television's
« Reply #45 on: 17 March 2008, 23:17:05 »

Where have you been, you have a lot of catching up to do, get reading.  :D :D :D
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« Reply #46 on: 17 March 2008, 23:32:04 »

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Where have you been, you have a lot of catching up to do, get reading.  :D :D :D
my bloody back spasmed .One min i was was typing, and helping the little,un to do her homework ,the next i was on the floor rolling around in agony
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« Reply #47 on: 17 March 2008, 23:34:34 »

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Where have you been, you have a lot of catching up to do, get reading.  :D :D :D
my bloody back spasmed .One min i was was typing, and helping the little,un to do her homework ,the next i was on the floor rolling around in agony

Hope you are OK, been some interesting reading tonight. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 17 March 2008, 23:42:44 »

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Where have you been, you have a lot of catching up to do, get reading.  :D :D :D
my bloody back spasmed .One min i was was typing, and helping the little,un to do her homework ,the next i was on the floor rolling around in agony

Hope you are OK, been some interesting reading tonight. ;D ;D ;D
bit stiff but i'll live ,ive done a bit of catchin up. lmao
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Re: idiots guide to plasma LCD television's
« Reply #49 on: 18 March 2008, 07:26:13 »

Keep out of Currys, Comet and the like who ain't got a clue about what they're selling.  They tend to line up rows after rows of TVs displaying standard def in their displays.  

My advice would be to go into specialist shops (independents) with a bit of an idea of what your price range is.  Then, ask for demonstrations using Sky HD or Blu-Ray.  That way, you can see the picture for yourself and be able to make some proper comparisons.  Once you decide on your model, search on line and make huge savings.  Remember, the model number has to be EXACT (one letter different is not the same display).

I went for a Pioneer 6th generation 43" Plasma (bicking trend of nearly everyone on here) two years ago simply because I found it to be the best natural picture with superb contrasts - but you really have to see High Definition for yourself.  I was blown away with the pic quality; If I was buying new today, I'd still get Plasma but that's a personal opinion.  Remember, most people that get a HD tv aren't even watching HD - even though they think they are.  There's still very limited channels available in HD; how many people that you know even own a Blu-ray or HDDVD player?

My view (flying in the face of others here) is that plasma generally gives the better picture above 42" on HD - but have a look for yourself.  I think LCD's piccys appear to be a bit artificial but pound for pound, you'll get better value with an LCD - especially under 42" - but remember - you get what you pay for.  You can pay £700 for a Supermarket brand 42" plasma or pay £2,400 for a Pioneer.  The difference is huge!!!

Someone mentioned Full HD over HD Ready!  Don't be fooled by the headlines.  You can be getting full HD 42" for under £1,000 but that ain't the full story.  Some 720p have beter pictures than 1080p.

As for life of the TV, under average viewing time, expect a about 30% more life from a LCD over Plasma.  Will you not be ungrading within 7 years anyway?  There's sure to be future displays with built in Blu-Ray and Digital HD channels one day..........

What's your budget and what equipment do you want?  Are you interested in Home Cinema and Blu-Ray or just an all-in-one TV?
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« Reply #50 on: 18 March 2008, 13:43:56 »

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Some 720p have beter pictures than 1080p.
Correct. This is because a large majority of sources are output in 720 and therefore display better on a 720 unit. So even though you may think you're buying into a bigger, better picture with 1080, the scaling and inferior processing means it will not show as accurately.

I will reiterate again regarding internet sales, be very wary. Some items sold over the web have known to be grey import goods and some, as such, are not covered by a european warranty. There is also the risk the items are 'graded' stock, they are usually old models anyway.

Approach your high street, or better still, independent retailer with a price you have found on the web and see how close they can get. You may be surprised!

As for putting figures on whether an lcd or plasma will last longer, this can't really be done I think you'll find! This is dependant on viewing habits, environmental factors etc and both are just as reliable. Manufacturers 'claimed' lifespan of both is around 60,000 hours, much longer than a tube television! You'll be looking for a new telly before it wears out!
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Re: idiots guide to plasma LCD television's
« Reply #51 on: 18 March 2008, 14:01:22 »

Don't have time to read the thread but this might help...

http://www.plasma-lcd-facts.co.uk/
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Re: idiots guide to plasma LCD television's
« Reply #52 on: 18 March 2008, 14:01:26 »

Your comment above is only partially correct. ;)

A good 720p panel will give a better picture than a cheap 1080p.
Eg, A Sony/Samsung/Panasonic 720p will give a visibly better picture than say a Wharfedale/LG/Bush unit.

The real limitation of 720p is that it cannot display "True HD", which is 1080p.
Ok, this is usually only a real issue when watching blu ray (or, of you made the wrong choice HD-DVD) films, but at the money he is looking to spend, it would be foolish to go with a 720p panel.

As far as upscaling goes, it is down to the source material primarily and then the quality of the hardware doing the job.

Once again, the cheaper units don't do the job as well.
However, Sony, Panasonic and Samsung are very good at it.

When it comes to finally buying the unit, be very careful who you buy from as you only find out how good they are when something goes wrong. Do research on the retailer themselves.

Oh, and if buying on the high street, John Lewis will price match and have an excellent reputation.
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« Reply #53 on: 18 March 2008, 15:42:10 »

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Yes, but I didn't want to fry his brain!  ;)

The only thing that makes one model better than another is the quality of the processing and panel. Therefore, i'd see beyond the badge and trust your eyes. I've seen some terrible sony's and some terrible samsungs also, likewise i've seen some bad philips. Though it's down to personal opinion, it's what makes the world go round!

Thankfully, the overall quality and technology is improving and the prices are coming down  :)
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Re: idiots guide to plasma LCD television's
« Reply #54 on: 18 March 2008, 16:58:47 »

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Yes, but I didn't want to fry his brain!  ;)

The only thing that makes one model better than another is the quality of the processing and panel. Therefore, i'd see beyond the badge and trust your eyes. I've seen some terrible sony's and some terrible samsungs also, likewise i've seen some bad philips. Though it's down to personal opinion, it's what makes the world go round!

Thankfully, the overall quality and technology is improving and the prices are coming down  :)

Ihavent got a brain to fry anymore  :D :D
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« Reply #55 on: 18 March 2008, 17:04:37 »

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Yes, but I didn't want to fry his brain!  ;)

The only thing that makes one model better than another is the quality of the processing and panel. Therefore, i'd see beyond the badge and trust your eyes. I've seen some terrible sony's and some terrible samsungs also, likewise i've seen some bad philips. Though it's down to personal opinion, it's what makes the world go round!

Thankfully, the overall quality and technology is improving and the prices are coming down  :)


That would be the cheap ones - it was good seeing 4 side by side
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