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[theolodian]

Looking at a lease agreement on a new place to live.  They say that illegal and immoral uses are not allowed.  WTF?!  What is immoral that is not illegal that they have the right to tell me not to do?

I know you guys are going to go all over the place with this, but it does really bother me and I would like at least a few serious replies please.  This would not be allowed in the states because religious busy-bodies would be running around trying to control your life.  If they listed specific items that would be one thing, but 'immoral' leaves the door wide open to interpretation.  

[miggy]

Looking at a lease agreement on a new place to live.  They say that illegal and immoral uses are not allowed.  WTF?!  What is immoral that is not illegal that they have the right to tell me not to do?

I know you guys are going to go all over the place with this, but it does really bother me and I would like at least a few serious replies please.  This would not be allowed in the states because religious busy-bodies would be running around trying to control your life.  If they listed specific items that would be one thing, but 'immoral' leaves the door wide open to interpretation.  

Brothel............drugs den..

[MikeDundee]

Looking at a lease agreement on a new place to live.  They say that illegal and immoral uses are not allowed.  WTF?!  What is immoral that is not illegal that they have the right to tell me not to do?

I know you guys are going to go all over the place with this, but it does really bother me and I would like at least a few serious replies please.  This would not be allowed in the states because religious busy-bodies would be running around trying to control your life.  If they listed specific items that would be one thing, but 'immoral' leaves the door wide open to interpretation.  

Well you do now own a skateboard, and unless you are going to be building home made bombs, or running a brothel, then you should be OK .....On the other hand the conditions of the lease are entirely up to the freeholder and likewise up to the prospective tenant as to whether they sign or agree to the terms within the lease ...you can always skate way you know

[theolodian]

Looking at a lease agreement on a new place to live.  They say that illegal and immoral uses are not allowed.  WTF?!  What is immoral that is not illegal that they have the right to tell me not to do?

I know you guys are going to go all over the place with this, but it does really bother me and I would like at least a few serious replies please.  This would not be allowed in the states because religious busy-bodies would be running around trying to control your life.  If they listed specific items that would be one thing, but 'immoral' leaves the door wide open to interpretation.  

Brothel............drugs den..

Yeah, that's what the Realtor said.  But aren't those illegal as well?

[Entwood]

Porn film "studio"  ... not illegal but could be considered immoral  .... in fact this is a a "clever" clause, as illegal activities are defined ... ie they break a written law....  immoral activities are open to debate/conjecture and will vary according to religous/personal beliefs .... so they COULD argue an activity is immoral IN THEIR EYES in order to evict an unwanted tenant who may not be actuall breaking the law.

[theolodian]

Porn film "studio"  ... not illegal but could be considered immoral  .... in fact this is a a "clever" clause, as illegal activities are defined ... ie they break a written law....  immoral activities are open to debate/conjecture and will vary according to religous/personal beliefs .... so they COULD argue an activity is immoral IN THEIR EYES in order to evict an unwanted tenant who may not be actuall breaking the law.

Thanks, at least that's one thing that makes sense.  Maybe get them to give a few examples to set the general tone?

[hotel21]

Theres a couple in here that may get you thinking, Theo....

Definitions of immoral on the Web:

deliberately violating accepted principles of right and wrong
base: not adhering to ethical or moral principles; "base and unpatriotic motives"; "a base, degrading way of life"; "cheating is dishonorable"; "they considered colonialism immoral"; "unethical practices in handling public funds"
morally unprincipled; "immoral behavior"
bad: characterized by wickedness or immorality; "led a very bad life"
depraved: marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good; "depraved criminals"; "a perverted sense of loyalty"; "the reprobate conduct of a gambling aristocrat"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Morality refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of right and wrong -- also referred to as "good and evil" -- used within three contexts: individual conscience; systems of principles and judgments -- sometimes called moral values --shared within a cultural, religious ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immoral

with low moral standards, especially relating to sexual behavior ( archaic )
encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861698469/light.html

[Kevin Wood]

Depends whose morals are used to test it in court

.. and if the court would even recognise it as not being a waste of their time.

Kevin

[theolodian]

I'm off to colonise the bathroom!    Good enough term for it.