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[Webby the Bear]

Update

Ok then chaps. First of all, thanks to all who suggested I was jump starting badly. It started after 2 mins when I put the cable on the eye at the back of the plenum 

When it started it still goes ''dugga, dugga, dugga'' although it did seem a quieter ''dugga'' than last time although still noisy.

i'm thinking the only misfire related thing now is the disspac although i was texting ralf (the oof member, not the car  ) and he said the pac was fine before he had the CC's done.

i'm going to get a dispac and if that still don't cure it i'm defo not spending anymore dosh on it. i shall simply run through the rest of the jobs and as long as when i start it up again it still runs i'll assume i've done it all ok 

now, this poses another question. if i'd done a bad CC gasket job how long before i got the major oil leak? i ran it for 5 mins. would i see the leak in this time?

cheers all

[Marks DTM Calib]

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure you got the plug leads connected to the dis pack correctly? (remembering that the 2-4-6 bank is not obvious!)

Any fault codes?

[Webby the Bear]

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure you got the plug leads connected to the dis pack correctly? (remembering that the 2-4-6 bank is not obvious!)

Any fault codes?

This is how I'm wiring it up



(sweet drawing, I know  )

As for fault codes I was waiting to see if this got sorted first I'll paperclip at the wekend

[Marks DTM Calib]

It should be:

   1 - 3 - 5
C - - - - - -
   4 - 6 - 2

hence its connected up wrong and hence the miss fire!

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its simple, the setup works on the waisted spark principle e.g. it fires one cylinder close to top dead centre on the compression stroke and another one which is top dead centre on the exhaust stroke.

As we have six cylinders and the firing order is 1-2-3-4-5-6 we get

Compression	Exhaust
1	4
2	5
3	6
4	1
5	2
6	3

So if we now consider the coil pack we get

1-3-5
4-6-2

Simples.......but not obvious!

As per the above.

Remember that if there should be a difference of '3' between opposing ends of the three coils.

[Webby the Bear]

It should be:

   1 - 3 - 5
C - - - - - -
   4 - 6 - 2

hence its connected up wrong and hence the miss fire!

ok now I'm confused.... i just connected them up as per the numbers on the disspac as you can see in this photo. the connector is at the other end

[Webby the Bear]

ps, sorry not trying to fry anyone's brain but i don't understand how i've put them together wrong when i've put them in their respective corresponding slots

[Marks DTM Calib]

my bad, but your connections are still wrong 

   5 - 3 - 1
C - - - - - -
   2 - 6 - 4

[Marks DTM Calib]

If you have connected them as per your drawing, then they are wrong.

You can see on the dis pack the  4 - 6 - 2 ....which is fine but, they should have 1 - 3 - 5 opposite.....

[Marks DTM Calib]

Lets start with a simple question......is the dis pack loom connector on the right or the left hand side? (it should be on the left)?

[Webby the Bear]

Lets start with a simple question......is the dis pack loom connector on the right or the left hand side? (it should be on the left)?

lol sorry about this 

if it's screwed down it's on the left as you look at the engine.

as said, i connected them up correctly (ie, all correct leads to all corresponding disspac numbers) i just think my drawings wrong.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ok, with the connector on the left it should be:

   5 - 3 - 1
C - - - - - -
   2 - 6 - 4

So check it carefuly as its the most common thing to get wrong and would casue the symptoms you have......and you can check it without taking anything off (although you might scratch your hands a bit!)

[bored bigyin54]

the only misfire it had was on tick over as soon as i drove it . it was fine not a miss on acceleration i overtook two cars and it didnt miss a beat that was two days before cam gaskets were done

[Webby the Bear]

Ok, with the connector on the left it should be:

   5 - 3 - 1
C - - - - - -
   2 - 6 - 4

So check it carefuly as its the most common thing to get wrong and would casue the symptoms you have......and you can check it without taking anything off (although you might scratch your hands a bit!)

Thanks Mark.

I haven't screwed it down. it sat on the plenum when i fired her up (so i could easily swap disspacs if it needed a new one) so i can clearly see the numbers. ill absolutely double check that they're on the right place and they're all popped in correctly. other than that, i dont know what to do other than buy a new disspac.

i will check codes but even my old man said it sounds like a cylinder out.

[henryd]

Or a duff HT lead if you haven't already fitted new ones