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[tigers_gonads]

The cheese eating surender monkeys show how it should be done 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124572/Nicolas-Sarkozy-orders-instant-expulsion-radical-clerics-right-appeal.html

I wonder if Dave and his chums have the balls to follow suit ?

[the alarming man]

lol...ms may take note...

[b4ndit]

I wonder if Dave and his chums have the balls to follow suit ?

I doubt it TG

[Entwood]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

[Nickbat]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

[hotel21]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

.... therefore a subsequent trial may be deemed unfair? Thats how I read it anyways.

[Entwood]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

It is that aspect that makes any trial "unfair" according to the ECHR

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=2&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=qatada&sessionid=90721017&skin=hudoc-en

[hotel21]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

.... therefore a subsequent trial may be deemed unfair? Thats how I read it anyways.

... and I should add that I am firmly rooted in the camp of deportation back to whence they came when the individuals are foreign nationals who seem intent on full scale nurture of rebellion and similar in the UK.

[STMO123]

I am nostalgic for the days when such undesirables would either turn up dead or just disappear.
 
We did, of course, used to rule the world in those days.

[ozzycat]

kick all the extremests out we still have some good muslims who care about the uk they should be allowed to stay
[mind you we have some britains that are set on anarchysend them with theextremests aswell]

[Entwood]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

.... therefore a subsequent trial may be deemed unfair? Thats how I read it anyways.

... and I should add that I am firmly rooted in the camp of deportation back to whence they came when the individuals are foreign nationals who seem intent on full scale nurture of rebellion and similar in the UK.

Likewise ...

It is somewhat ironic that the previous government failed to deport him as an "undesirable", for various political reasons.... after which the Jordanians requested his extradition .. so he was arrested .. and thats where the present problems lie ... he COULD have been "sent home" in 2001 .. but the authorities hoped he would give information on suspect terrorist cells in exchange for refugee status ... which he did not ..... surprise, surprise ..

[Nickbat]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

It is that aspect that makes any trial "unfair" according to the ECHR

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=2&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=qatada&sessionid=90721017&skin=hudoc-en

I thought it was the evidence by torture allegation that stopped his deportation rather than any trial he may face once deported, but I stand corrected if wrong. 

[Entwood]

What that "wonderful" piece of "journalism" fails to point out, but it IS worth remembering .. is that the UK, at no time, ever, attempted to "expel" Qatada ..... he was arrested on a extradition request from Jordan.

There is a massive legal difference between expelling a foreign national and extraditing someone to face trial in another country.

Qatada has been backed by the ECHR on the grounds that he will not face a fair trial, therefore his extradition has been blocked.

Those that France has expelled have simply been sent "home" to be released

A very different situation....  but one the press, and probably most here will choose to ignore.

Luckily some of those in Government actually know the difference.

Not strictly true, as I understand it. It was because some of the evidence against him may (it is alleged) have been obtained through torture.

It is that aspect that makes any trial "unfair" according to the ECHR

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=2&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=qatada&sessionid=90721017&skin=hudoc-en

I thought it was the evidence by torture allegation that stopped his deportation rather than any trial he may face once deported, but I stand corrected if wrong. 

Right at the very end of the link I posted ....

5.  Holds that the applicant’s deportation to Jordan would be in violation of Article 6 of the Convention on account of the real risk of the admission at the applicant’s retrial of evidence obtained by torture of third persons.

My highlight 

[Nickbat]

I stand corrected, Entwood. 

[Rods2]

The cheese eating surender monkeys show how it should be done 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124572/Nicolas-Sarkozy-orders-instant-expulsion-radical-clerics-right-appeal.html

I wonder if Dave and his chums have the balls to follow suit ?

Anyone would think there was a election happening in France and the little sh*t Sarkozy was losing votes to Marie La Pen of the Nationalist party, who might beat him in the first round of voting. 

The Toulouse incident has seen her popularity gain a big boost.