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[doz]

Agree your V6 my be lazy but if you take a 1600 petrol and put it against a 1600 diesel like for like the diesel will be the lazier engine. Modern diesels are now 20k miles between services same as a petrol.

[Kevin Wood]

Still soulless to drive, IMHO, with a really narrow rev range so you have to stir the box constantly - or get an auto which they really don't suit.

Still not as reliable as a petrol engine by a long way (unless you go pre-common rail).

You need to spend much more than Omega money to get one new enough to be decent.

I'll stick to petrol LPG, thanks.

[feeutfo]

Aeye. Must say i'm delighted with mine currently. LPG. The cake and eat it option.

[twiglet]

Diesel engines are 'wrong' in passenger cars.
 

Plus anyone who buys a modern diesel and just uses it to pootle around town is throwing money away due to increased service costs and decreased engine life.

Also every time I've used 'Google maps' to plan a route the estimated fuel costs are always more in a diesel vehicle.

What are the actual advantages of a diesel engine? Any one care to enlighten me!
 

You can't run a petrol engined car on chip fat.  That's the advantage of a diesel for me! 

[Andy B]

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Modern diesels are now 20k miles between services same as a petrol.

and many will say that 20k between oil changes, especially for a diesel is far too long. 

[YZ250]

Still soulless to drive, IMHO, with a really narrow rev range so you have to stir the box constantly - or get an auto which they really don't suit.

Still not as reliable as a petrol engine by a long way (unless you go pre-common rail).

You need to spend much more than Omega money to get one new enough to be decent.

I'll stick to petrol LPG, thanks.

Oh dear, oh dear, I would like the opportunity to change your views on that Kevin.   
I do agree it is car dependant though. 

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Modern diesels are now 20k miles between services same as a petrol.

and many will say that 20k between oil changes, especially for a diesel is far too long. 

Agreed. Those poor little followers with 20k of crud eating away at them. 

[tigers_gonads]

My old man and lady have just blown 20 grand on a Citroen Zx with the 1.6 diesel and stop / start.
No road tax
Pretty nippy (110 bhp) and a 7 or 8 speed flappy box.
If the thing was anymore economical, it would be making the diesel 
Currently doing around 65 mpg with most of that in the town 
Bloody nice to drive too

Hate to say this about a modern Citroen but it is a very nice car 

Zx

FFS, it's a C4 vtr+ 

Bad day 

[I_want_an_Omega]

Would you like some facts ........

Over the last few days SWMBO and I have both been on quite long trips. I went to Hereford and did 350 miles in the Omega. She went to Kent and did 530 miles in her 2.0 Diesel Focus. Both cars were driven sensibly.

Omega 3.0 V6 auto trip average was 31.7 mpg
Focus 2.0 Tdci Manual trip average was 56 mpg

There you go .....

[I_want_an_Omega]

My old man and lady have just blown 20 grand on a Citroen Zx with the 1.6 diesel and stop / start.
No road tax
Pretty nippy (110 bhp) and a 7 or 8 speed flappy box.
If the thing was anymore economical, it would be making the diesel 
Currently doing around 65 mpg with most of that in the town 
Bloody nice to drive too

Hate to say this about a modern Citroen but it is a very nice car 

Zx

FFS, it's a C4 vtr+ 

Bad day 

Just pray it has to go nowhere near a Citroen dealership when it's out of waranty. Took them 5 visits to fix my sat-nav which they broke whilst servicing my C5 VTR+ Nav 

[henryd]

My old man and lady have just blown 20 grand on a Citroen Zx with the 1.6 diesel and stop / start.
No road tax
Pretty nippy (110 bhp) and a 7 or 8 speed flappy box.
If the thing was anymore economical, it would be making the diesel 
Currently doing around 65 mpg with most of that in the town 
Bloody nice to drive too

Hate to say this about a modern Citroen but it is a very nice car 

Zx

FFS, it's a C4 vtr+ 

Bad day 

Lol

[maracus]

Would you like some facts ........

Over the last few days SWMBO and I have both been on quite long trips. I went to Hereford and did 350 miles in the Omega. She went to Kent and did 530 miles in her 2.0 Diesel Focus. Both cars were driven sensibly.

Omega 3.0 V6 auto trip average was 31.7 mpg
Focus 2.0 Tdci Manual trip average was 56 mpg

There you go .....

Now go and drive them both hard. I bet that wipes a good 8 mpg off the figures...

Derv; 56-8=48.

Mig; 31.7-8= not even 24mpg!

Derv WINS!!

Deisel loves work! Petrols love juice!!

Lol

[Kevin Wood]

Would you like some facts ........

Over the last few days SWMBO and I have both been on quite long trips. I went to Hereford and did 350 miles in the Omega. She went to Kent and did 530 miles in her 2.0 Diesel Focus. Both cars were driven sensibly.

Omega 3.0 V6 auto trip average was 31.7 mpg
Focus 2.0 Tdci Manual trip average was 56 mpg

There you go .....

Now go and drive them both hard. I bet that wipes a good 8 mpg off the figures...

Derv; 56-8=48.

Mig; 31.7-8= not even 24mpg!

Derv WINS!!

Deisel loves work! Petrols love juice!!

Lol

Focus versus Omega is hardly comparing like with like.

.. and a 31.7MPG V6 journey sounds like a motorway cruise. Now, I've had 24MPG on a motorway cruise. It was on an autobahn with the cruise control set to 120 MPH for a significant percentage of the time. Not something the Focus would take kindly to survive.

Granted, a V6 Omega can only dream of 35MPG let alone 50, but for real world motorway cruising (over the limit but not into 3 figures) the Omega doesn't really get that much more thirsty. Most diesels I've driven tend to be quite a bit more thirsty at vaguely naughty speeds encountered in the real world, meaning that the stunning 50something per gallon figures are achieved in the lorry lane. Not somewhere I want to be.

Besides, I'm not arguing that petrol is cheaper.. Just that it's worth the money.

[tunnie]

But with the Omega I get no garage bills, no labour charges. I save huge amounts in DIY service, although it costs more in fuel, end of the day it's about the same as a modern economical diesel