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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #30 on: 08 April 2008, 16:30:57 »

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... for an average alarm system i would charge £52 a year for a maintenance contract covering alarm for parts, labour and call out for 12 months which i think is quite reasonable...

Yes, not unreasonable. Like Mark, I suspect, I am able to look after it myself so I would prefer to do so.

It was the manner in which the previous company tried to extract the money from me rather than the cost that got my goat.. Saying that it would render my insurance invalid and threatening to come and remove the alarm (with no legal basis to do so) if I didn't pay up. Words engineered to extract money out of the vulnerable IMHO, and that really gets me fired up, I'm afraid.

Anyway, I'd also be interested in your recommendations for a panel as mine has a couple of doubled up zones now. I've got a few Texecom PIRS which I seem to recall being impressed with when I installed them.

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A texecom R8 would do you fine which has 8 zones if you want more zones and fancy the challenge of the phone book as a programing manual then go for the premier with flush mounted keypad in satin chrome with prox tag looks great.

Do they not also support the PC interface programming?
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #32 on: 08 April 2008, 16:46:18 »

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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #33 on: 08 April 2008, 16:47:17 »

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A gold keypad!

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burglar-Intruder-Alarm-Systems/Alarm-Control-Panels/Texecom-Premier-control-panels/default.asp

Its actually polished plastic brass and looks sh*t in real life

Possibly more popular in Essex then........ ::)
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« Reply #34 on: 08 April 2008, 16:52:36 »

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... for an average alarm system i would charge £52 a year for a maintenance contract covering alarm for parts, labour and call out for 12 months which i think is quite reasonable...

Yes, not unreasonable. Like Mark, I suspect, I am able to look after it myself so I would prefer to do so.

It was the manner in which the previous company tried to extract the money from me rather than the cost that got my goat.. Saying that it would render my insurance invalid and threatening to come and remove the alarm (with no legal basis to do so) if I didn't pay up. Words engineered to extract money out of the vulnerable IMHO, and that really gets me fired up, I'm afraid.

Anyway, I'd also be interested in your recommendations for a panel as mine has a couple of doubled up zones now. I've got a few Texecom PIRS which I seem to recall being impressed with when I installed them.

Kevin

A texecom R8 would do you fine which has 8 zones if you want more zones and fancy the challenge of the phone book as a programing manual then go for the premier with flush mounted keypad in satin chrome with prox tag looks great.

Do they not also support the PC interface programming?

Yes the Premier range does it has a software system called wintex very good if you are doing multiple setups or dialing in remotely but pretty pointless on site to be honest if you are just setting up one system.

A good wireless system thats out now is the infinite prime call it up on your way home and tell it to put the heating on turn the lights on or off plus many more pointless but fantasticaly cool boys toys

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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #35 on: 08 April 2008, 16:54:02 »

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A gold keypad!

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burglar-Intruder-Alarm-Systems/Alarm-Control-Panels/Texecom-Premier-control-panels/default.asp

Its actually polished plastic brass and looks sh*t in real life

Possibly more popular in Essex then........ ::)
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The satin chrome one is really nice though just hard to get a customer to pay so much for a keypad.
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #36 on: 08 April 2008, 16:54:54 »

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A gold keypad!

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burglar-Intruder-Alarm-Systems/Alarm-Control-Panels/Texecom-Premier-control-panels/default.asp

Its actually polished plastic brass and looks sh*t in real life

Possibly more popular in Essex then........ ::)

EW!  :o

That reminds me of another job I've yet to do. Replace all the brass effect 13 amp sockets and light switches with white ones. Still, only been there 3 years. Garage was sorted in about 3 weeks. :y

Kevin
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« Reply #37 on: 08 April 2008, 16:59:15 »

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A gold keypad!

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burglar-Intruder-Alarm-Systems/Alarm-Control-Panels/Texecom-Premier-control-panels/default.asp

Its actually polished plastic brass and looks sh*t in real life

Possibly more popular in Essex then........ ::)

EW!  :o

That reminds me of another job I've yet to do. Replace all the brass effect 13 amp sockets and light switches with white ones. Still, only been there 3 years. Garage was sorted in about 3 weeks. :y

Kevin

Good man nice to see you have your priorities right, I have just been down to Leeds not long ago to sort my mates garage out alarm with 127db master blaster siren burst your ear drums plus 4*8ft double flourecent lights it puts a spray booth to shame, but then it is to keep his 720BHP Ultima GTR warm and safe. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #38 on: 08 April 2008, 17:07:47 »

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Good man nice to see you have your priorities right, I have just been down to Leeds not long ago to sort my mates garage out alarm with 127db master blaster siren burst your ear drums plus 4*8ft double flourecent lights it puts a spray booth to shame, but then it is to keep his 720BHP Ultima GTR warm and safe. ;D ;D ;D ;D

He He. I've even been getting away with a marine ply bathroom floor for about 2 years. Might have to give in and tile that soon though..  :'(

Ultima GTR?  :-*

Does he take it to Le Mans at all? Might have bumped into him if so. I often go to the same camp site (Chanteloup) that the Ultima club go to (in my Westfield). I can sometimes be found looking at their cars and druelling.

They are awesome bits of kit. Only thing that would put me off is that I can't think of anywhere (road or track) that you'd be able to give one of those a "proper spanking".  ;D

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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #39 on: 08 April 2008, 17:19:14 »

There is certain track days you can take it to V-Max do one. But the speed in which it gets to silly speeds is just rediculous!!!!! Last time we where out in it we out run a ducati 998 on the motorway i wont say what speed we where doing but it was fantastic and put gay biker boy in his place. He hasnt taken it to le man he has only just got it back cause some 87year old woman drove over the front of it when it was parked £27500 worth if damage and she didnt even know she had done it!!!! Anyway its back now and is baisically a brand new car.

Before any do gooders for respect the speed limit dont do this and dont do that, i dont want to hear it, there was only us on the motorway end of story.
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #40 on: 08 April 2008, 19:51:19 »

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I have my own security business installing alarm systems, CCTV systems etc, the best thing you can do is have it serviced once a year to make sure everything is in order and any problems will be picked up straight away. People have this general conception that once you have an alarm installed then thats it for life unfortunatly its not as the most common fault is your back up battery in the alarm panel failing after a number of years then you baisically burn the back of the alarm panel causing a number of faults including going off for no reason in the middle of the night. Hope this helps a little.


Mine gets serviced every year and the battery changed every 2 years.....but then I have a good supply of free batteries!

Only time it goes off is if I set it off by opening the garage door without dissarming it!

I have to say that I think the maintenance timers and not providing the engineer codes/boss engineer codes to the customer is a little naughty.

Mine is serviced every 12 months as well, never gone off without reason since fitted, 18 years ago.

No movement sensors, just impact and closure sensors on all doors and windows.

Was gonna suggest you've got a mouse AA and to fit pet lenses to the PIR's  but as you havent got any......then maybe not  ;D

I used to fit alarms years ago, when the 1st cordless ones came out, not the crap stuff you get in diy stores mind.......and used to take along a qualified electician with me.....he'd do the wiring part, id do the wireless bits, not that i couldnt do it, just so my arse was covered if anything went wrong.

I remember one customer i had to fit pet lenses on all the PIR's so their bloody cat didnt set the alarm off......well if it decided to climb up curtains or get up anywhere high up it would set the alarm off.....but what can you do.......when there not prepared to shut it in a room without PIR, when they are out  ::)
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #41 on: 08 April 2008, 19:55:36 »

No such thing as a good cordless alarm....much to easy to get round!
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #42 on: 08 April 2008, 20:38:54 »

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I remember one customer i had to fit pet lenses on all the PIR's so their bloody cat didnt set the alarm off......well if it decided to climb up curtains or get up anywhere high up it would set the alarm off.....but what can you do.......when there not prepared to shut it in a room without PIR, when they are out  ::)

Probably cheaper to fit pet pir's rather than replace clawed carpets in the doorsways or easier than getting up to stop cats doing the above at O crack sparrow fart. We have them fitted, as I understood it each pir sends out more than one 'beam' & at least 2 need to be seen by the pir to trigger the alarm.
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Re: House Alarm @ 03.45 a.m.
« Reply #43 on: 08 April 2008, 20:43:44 »

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Not giving the customer the engineer code is not really an issue as the customer doesnt need to really do anything to the alarm system but what they can do and need to do like changing your own user code and omiting zones you can do all this through your own code, you dont need engineer for that.  .......

I originally worked out the engineer's code on mine. The next time it was serviced the code was changed  :-? but I do know the current number. On the occasion I decorate I like to paper under, rather than up to the various alarm bits, & the tamper won't reset with just my code.
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« Reply #44 on: 08 April 2008, 21:12:12 »

It was me.........did you not notice the silver footprints  :D
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