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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #15 on: 06 June 2012, 15:29:10 »

I recall about 10 yrs ago hearing a commotion over the garden wall, looked over to see a man had been punched to the ground and the assailant leaving the scene. Me and mum went to the guys aid but he died later that day in Hospital.

He had alledgedly took advantage of a young girl locally and her brother was the aggressor, it later transpired no such thing had occured. Fortunately we didn't end up giving evidence as he pleaded guilty.

He received 18 yrs for being a vigilanty and the chap in the OP deserves a good sentence too >:(
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #16 on: 06 June 2012, 15:42:26 »

Superb work on your intervention Phi you did the right thing.  Not all forms of analgesia (pain relief) are pharmacutical.  Psycological anagesia works just as well, distract him from the pain by talking about other things can work just as well believe it or not.  Physical analgesia, such as you did by putting your hand in the way, is the third type.  Maybe you missed your calling as a paramedic?!  ;)

For what he did, the guy deserves to be locked away for a long time, but because our justice system sees cylists in some way to blame for being killed and maimed by motorists (I assume just by having the gall to be obtuse and use the same road space as a motorist) and he will get a slap on the wrist and be told not to do that again.. what a naughty boy!

Phil, for your actions, from a medic and a cyclist, you have my eternal respect  :y


Yeah, well done Mr Phil. :y :y :y
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #17 on: 06 June 2012, 16:31:28 »

Handy being a medic and a cyclist Matt, you can treat yourself when folk knock you off your bike  ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D outstanding - a quality quip. 8)

Yeah its a combination that's well up there in the irony stakes ;D
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #18 on: 06 June 2012, 17:03:12 »

Superb work on your intervention Phi you did the right thing.  Not all forms of analgesia (pain relief) are pharmacutical.  Psycological anagesia works just as well, distract him from the pain by talking about other things can work just as well believe it or not.  Physical analgesia, such as you did by putting your hand in the way, is the third type.  Maybe you missed your calling as a paramedic?!  ;)

For what he did, the guy deserves to be locked away for a long time, but because our justice system sees cylists in some way to blame for being killed and maimed by motorists (I assume just by having the gall to be obtuse and use the same road space as a motorist) and he will get a slap on the wrist and be told not to do that again.. what a naughty boy!

Phil, for your actions, from a medic and a cyclist, you have my eternal respect  :y

Are you perchance claiming that no cyclist is ever at fault??  :o

I have personally witnessed cyclists:

- riding at night with no lights, and wearing dark clothing
- riding on the footpath (one even had the nerve to ring his bell at me when he rode up behind me as I was walking to work - although I suppose I should be thankful he had a bell on his bike as -)
- not having a bell or other warning device
- ignoring red ATS and pedestrian crossings
- riding the wrong way down one-way streets
- riding on the main carriageway on a busy 60mph limit road when there is a seperate cycle lane running along the side of the road (not illegal I know, just stupid, imo)

A couple of years ago a lad was riding his bike at speed along the footpath not far from my house, when he got to the corner at a T-junction he shot straight out into the road in front of a car. I suppose that was the car driver's fault too?

Too many cyclists behave as though they are not subject to any road laws.

BTW, I am a cyclist, motorcyclist and car driver, obviously not all at the same time...
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #19 on: 06 June 2012, 17:10:12 »

There's some shocking vigilante video's from south America and south  east asia all over the net
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #20 on: 06 June 2012, 18:53:28 »

>snip<
Too many cyclists behave as though they are not subject to any road laws.

BTW, I am a cyclist, motorcyclist and car driver, obviously not all at the same time...

The vast majority of cyclists are moreso... "bike users" - they have no interest beyond getting from A-B, and 'dangle berries' to anyone else. The same applies to car drivers, IME. The golden rule - treat everyone else on the road as if they are going to kill or seriously injure you - not through malice, but through incompetence...

 In this situation, I'd have done exactly the same - restrain the aggressor if necessary, so as to be able to take care of the cyclist without him intervening. I must admit, whether at work or not, there's always a fleeting moment of "are people going to think I'm peedling" before I kick into autopilot and do what has to be done to help... but it hasn't stopped me helping yet.
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« Reply #21 on: 06 June 2012, 20:55:09 »

 ???  phew .. interesting
 
Well done Phil.. :y
 
it proves quick decisions and judgement can lead to disastrous results.. :(
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« Reply #22 on: 06 June 2012, 20:57:49 »

djac and GK, I hate those types of cyclists as much as you.  But the fact of the matter is that if you follow the rules of the road and ride defensively you still get knocked off your bike either deliberately or by accident.  The second most saddening fact is that the police are completely NFI about cyclists getting hurt.  I was deliberately rammed off the road by a van driver once in Sheffield and I practically landed at the feet of two police officers, they pretty much walked over me to carry on with their beat.
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Re: Vigilantism
« Reply #23 on: 06 June 2012, 23:41:53 »

Some excellent action you took there for the cyclist  :y

I guess you only have what the Astra driver says as proof, may have been something else that triggered the rage, cyclist jumping a red or something   :-\
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