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[pscocoa]

Whilst waxing my daughter's Focus I heard some cries for help in the distance - elderly neighbour (83) on floor in garden. Got in and raised some help to get her covered and shaded and then phoned 999. She was in agony - possible broken collar bone. I was told at 12.52pm an ambulance is on its way "as we speak" and they ran through some things I had to do. 3 phone calls to 999 and 1 HOUR later ambulance turned up. I asked crew what time they got call and they said "10 minutes ago" at 1.30pm. What a disgrace.

[cleggy]

As you say a disgrace

Perhaps if they had told the truth in the first place and said ETA over 1 hour someone could have taken her to hospital by car

[I_want_an_Omega]

Make a formal complaint to the Chief Exec of your Ambulance Trust ..............

The 10 mins stated by the crew would have been when they got it - even so, theur target would have been an 8 min response time. Looks like multiple failures here ........

[Crazycarzowner]

I've found that many a time, either no ambulance available or I have to shout our control room to 'hurry' them up. Several times I've thought 'sod it' and took em to hospital in the police car.

[albitz]

Had similar here a month or so ago. Needed an ambulance in a hurry,was told it was on its way.It turned up two hours later.Driver said he had been 30 miles away and got the call twenty five minutes before he arrived here.I was very pissed off indeed.
Seen severeal reports of very similar ocurrences since in the local paper,which might suggest (yet another) system which needs overhauling from top to bottom.

[Plomien]

luckily I live within 5 mins of the local hospital A&e and ambulance station, every time we had to call one its been here very quickly

[the alarming man]

welcome to the tory run heath service we will have OAPS dieing on hospital trollies next

[albitz]

This hasnt all started in the last two years. The NHS budget is ring fenced (including inflation) so I dont know why they are apparently having to suffer these "savage cuts".
Imo the whole thing needs to start again from scratch tbh. It needs managing properly,but needs a lot less managers.

[the alarming man]

trust me albs that load of old bo£$ocks 'ring fenced' will not wash in this area anyway...pushing PCT into administration no there budget ARE NOT ring fenced in any way

[albitz]

Imo if the NHS budget was doubled tomorrow it wouldnt solve any of its problems.Its budget is absolutely enormous,but it employs far too many people.Its among the top 20 employers of people in the world. Its a huge inneffecient organisation which needs root & branch reform,but no-one has the balls to do the job.
It has a massive problem looming in the years ahead due to the fact that Labour racked up the PFI onto a different level and did deals with building companies (party donors probably) to build hospitals on credit.The credit terms were over a long period,but at "payday loan" rates.It will bankrupt the NHS in the future,but Labour knew this would happen a long time after they had retired on their gold plated pensions so didnt give a toss.It was criminal, no other word for it.

[the alarming man]

reforms one thing but they are now lying off fully trained paramedics in all areas...i will not argue yes less manager more foot soldiers....but unfortunatley that is'nt the way its going....the anbulance services was running on a skelton staff as it was

[albitz]

which is due to poor management.Too many chiefs (with the big salaries,pensions etc.) and not enough properly trained indians.
Politicians dont decide who keeps their job and who doesnt.Thats local managements job,and no doubt they have the feathers in their own nests at the top of their list of priorities.

[the alarming man]

yes but that still don't alter the facts their budgets are supposed to be ring fenced when they are not...another lie this shower of !"£$ told us regardless of cheif exec or not.thus affecting waiting times/attendance times

[dad1uk]

When we needed the Ambulance at Newent last year for Jan their turnout was excellent - about 20 mins. The paramedic arrived first - about 10ish minutes then the ambulance which was the other side of the Forest of Dene by the River Severn when they got the call.
Considering where we were I was very impressed!

[albitz]

The budget has definitely been ring fenced.If they had cut the overall budget after promising they wouldnt, the press would have slaughtered them for it the minute they got found out.How its distributed etc. across the various regions/ departments etc,is another matter of course.