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Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« on: 31 March 2008, 20:53:55 »

Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #1 on: 31 March 2008, 20:54:53 »

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Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Big tank and not over stocked.
Any idea’s
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #2 on: 31 March 2008, 20:55:57 »

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Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s

Is it overstocked?  Are they overfed? Ammonia can be affected by  the fishy exhaust  :'(


A new tank can take 6-8 weeks to settle down - how long have you had yours?
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #3 on: 31 March 2008, 20:58:39 »

I put a lava rock in my tank and it clouded up no end... eventually went after about a week though.

Have you put lots of chemicals in?
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #4 on: 31 March 2008, 20:59:50 »

Do you have a good filter, as mentioned, over feeding can cause probs as the uneaten food rots, need to keep on top of the cleanliness with good filtration. :y :y

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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #5 on: 31 March 2008, 21:00:05 »

got enough circulation? what water pump you got? Fluval?

1) change the filter in your water pump
2) take the level down to 2" above the height of the pump

If the pump is too low your won't get enough circulation.
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« Reply #7 on: 31 March 2008, 21:03:17 »

Have you looked for a dead fish?  These give off high levels of ammonia as they decompose and certainly won't help.

Regular water changes would help reduce the levels and cleaning the gravel bed where the excess fish shit and food congregate will be a help too.

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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #8 on: 31 March 2008, 21:04:27 »

Was it a new tank set up, because we had a lot of problems to start with. It eventually settled down, but it turned out we were changing the water too often.

We now change the water(1/3 of it) about every 6 weeks. The only chemicals we use is water additive and a white powder to bring the ph to 6.5. We don't have any charcoal or anything else in the filter system, just foam filter pads.

I think the trick is not to overload the tank with fish too soon, not to over feed and not to try to rush the system, the tank will sort itself eventually.
We run the tank at about 82F and this seems sweet.
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #9 on: 31 March 2008, 21:04:49 »

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Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s

Is it overstocked?  Are they overfed? Ammonia can be affected by  the fishy exhaust  :'(


A new tank can take 6-8 weeks to settle down - how long have you had yours?


Not now, we were overfeding apparently but not recently. Tank 3 months old now, was fine a couple of weeks after set up and for some weeks of adding fish, seemed to start when 'white spot' rmover put in tank.
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #10 on: 31 March 2008, 21:05:19 »

Have you looked for a dead fish?  These give off high levels of ammonia as they decompose and certainly won't help.

Regular water changes would help reduce the levels and cleaning the gravel bed where the excess fish shit and food congregate will be a help too.
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« Reply #11 on: 31 March 2008, 21:06:36 »

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I put a lava rock in my tank and it clouded up no end... eventually went after about a week though.

Have you put lots of chemicals in?

Might be worth a thought, 2 more big bits put in about a week ago cos they apparently help with the PH.
Yes, lots of chemicals, cost a fortune.
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« Reply #12 on: 31 March 2008, 21:08:04 »

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Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s

Is it overstocked?  Are they overfed? Ammonia can be affected by  the fishy exhaust  :'(


A new tank can take 6-8 weeks to settle down - how long have you had yours?


Not now, we were overfeding apparently but not recently. Tank 3 months old now, was fine a couple of weeks after set up and for some weeks of adding fish, seemed to start when 'white spot' rmover put in tank.

Ive used a chemical called.....erm, cannot remember the name now........something blue??? to clear the white spot. If you still have any fish with white spot try to segregate from the rest in a hospital tank.
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Re: Any tropical fish experts? Not Vx or LR problem
« Reply #13 on: 31 March 2008, 21:09:26 »

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Do you have a good filter, as mentioned, over feeding can cause probs as the uneaten food rots, need to keep on top of the cleanliness with good filtration. :y :y

Got any Neon Tetras for sale :question

We have the filter that came with it, have put extra 'noodles' in it. I have also put in another big filter thinking the original not much good.

Only got 2 neons left, lost 8. Had some baby guppies, born in the tank but lost them. My daughter blame me cos I had been cleaning the filters :(
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« Reply #14 on: 31 March 2008, 21:09:46 »

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I put a lava rock in my tank and it clouded up no end... eventually went after about a week though.

Have you put lots of chemicals in?

Might be worth a thought, 2 more big bits put in about a week ago cos they apparently help with the PH.
Yes, lots of chemicals, cost a fortune.
I used to use an old box filter with filter wool and activated charcoal in, always seemed to help especially with goldfish as they are very dirty in a tank, enough to pollute their own water.
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