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[Chopsdad]

Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s

Is it overstocked?  Are they overfed? Ammonia can be affected by  the fishy exhaust  


A new tank can take 6-8 weeks to settle down - how long have you had yours?

Not now, we were overfeding apparently but not recently. Tank 3 months old now, was fine a couple of weeks after set up and for some weeks of adding fish, seemed to start when 'white spot' rmover put in tank.

Ive used a chemical called.....erm, cannot remember the name now........something blue??? to clear the white spot. If you still have any fish with white spot try to segregate from the rest in a hospital tank.

Or bin em and buy some nice healthy ones - often cheaper than the chemicals.  I've seen that Nemo film - they are all desperate to go down the loo.  

[Vamps]

got enough circulation? what water pump you got? Fluval?

1) change the filter in your water pump
2) take the level down to 2" above the height of the pump

If the pump is too low your won't get enough circulation.

No problem with circulation have put an additional pump in 120 L/h in a 150L tank, this is on top of theoriginal, seemed the sensible thing to do and has made no difference.

[miggy]

I am supprised you aint dropped a tipple of whisky in as yet......

[Vamps]

Long story short.
We have had a major problem getting the ammonia level down, it was off the ‘scale’ however after using a range of chemicals a reading tonight looks good. Lost a lot of fish but none over the last couple of weeks.
Problem is the tank is still ‘Blooming’ looks foggy.
Currently no carbon filters cos of using chemicals. Lava rock, sand bottom 2 real and 2 plastic plants – no cheap ornaments etc.
Any idea’s

Is it overstocked?  Are they overfed? Ammonia can be affected by  the fishy exhaust  


A new tank can take 6-8 weeks to settle down - how long have you had yours?

Not now, we were overfeding apparently but not recently. Tank 3 months old now, was fine a couple of weeks after set up and for some weeks of adding fish, seemed to start when 'white spot' rmover put in tank.

Ive used a chemical called.....erm, cannot remember the name now........something blue??? to clear the white spot. If you still have any fish with white spot try to segregate from the rest in a hospital tank.

Or bin em and buy some nice healthy ones - often cheaper than the chemicals.  I've seen that Nemo film - they are all desperate to go down the loo.  

Thats where they have gone, dead ones of course, with a 'few words' if daughter has been around.

[platty]

Do you have a good filter, as mentioned, over feeding can cause probs as the uneaten food rots, need to keep on top of the cleanliness with good filtration.

Got any Neon Tetras for sale :question

We have the filter that came with it, have put extra 'noodles' in it. I have also put in another big filter thinking the original not much good.

Only got 2 neons left, lost 8. Had some baby guppies, born in the tank but lost them. My daughter blame me cos I had been cleaning the filters

Guppies are wimps  

When i first got set up, I put a hardcore regiment of Platies in and they took all sorts of rough conditions, (cloudy, heater packed up, filter packed up) and they took it all (except one who jumped out somehow :question).

They seemed to sort it out by themselves eventually  

EDIT: I do a 30% ish water change every 6 weeks or so with Cycle and  Water treatment. Also clean filters every 3 weeks. Tank always runs at 26/27 degrees.

[Vamps]

Was it a new tank set up, because we had a lot of problems to start with. It eventually settled down, but it turned out we were changing the water too often.

We now change the water(1/3 of it) about every 6 weeks. The only chemicals we use is water additive and a white powder to bring the ph to 6.5. We don't have any charcoal or anything else in the filter system, just foam filter pads.

I think the trick is not to overload the tank with fish too soon, not to over feed and not to try to rush the system, the tank will sort itself eventually.
We run the tank at about 82F and this seems sweet.

We have hada lot of mixed advice on water changes, even the books seem to differ. Seems that the fewer you do though is best, as you obviously found.
Runing at temp of 26C top of the marker on the thomometer, do you suggest higher?

[Chopsdad]

Do you have a good filter, as mentioned, over feeding can cause probs as the uneaten food rots, need to keep on top of the cleanliness with good filtration.

Got any Neon Tetras for sale :question

We have the filter that came with it, have put extra 'noodles' in it. I have also put in another big filter thinking the original not much good.

Only got 2 neons left, lost 8. Had some baby guppies, born in the tank but lost them. My daughter blame me cos I had been cleaning the filters

Guppies are wimps  

When i first got set up, I put a hardcore regiment of Platies in and they took all sorts of rough conditions, (cloudy, heater packed up, filter packed up) and they took it all (except one who jumped out somehow :question).

They seemed to sort it out by themselves eventually  

I added some Green Seberhams to mine - first they ate all the plants, then the neon tetras and then they went back to the shop - evils  

[Vamps]

I am supprised you aint dropped a tipple of whisky in as yet......

  Wast good whisky, think not.

[Richie London]

i always use under gravel filter. found i never had probs. i usually disrupt the gravel and syphon dirty water out to about 4 inches then refill,do this a couple of times and put just water softener in and some good plants to draw in the ammonia and toxins the fish produce. a pleco is always good for a tank and so are loaches, ive been doing this for about 15 yrs now and only ever lost fish to greedy sharks.

fish like a nice cold bath now and then, see how healthy they look when its nice and clean.

if you get fresh plants make sure there are no snails or eggs in the stems and roots, nightmare to rid lol

richie

[platty]

I added some Green Seberhams to mine - first they ate all the plants, then the neon tetras and then they went back to the shop - evils  

I dabbled with 2 of these once... as you say - they destoy everything, had to quarantine them with my sharks in the Death Tank.

[miggy]

I added some Green Seberhams to mine - first they ate all the plants, then the neon tetras and then they went back to the shop - evils  

I dabbled with 2 of these once... as you say - they destoy everything, had to quarantine them with my sharks in the Death Tank.

Is that where your forum name comes from  PLATTY,,

[platty]

Is that where your forum name comes from  PLATTY,,

Lol, they though it was funny in the fish shop too... Mr.Platt buying Platies.

I had the name first though!  

[Vamps]

had a look at this?

http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Ammonia

Cheers, gets complicated but interesting, the bit about the water conditioner.

[Richie London]

I added some Green Seberhams to mine - first they ate all the plants, then the neon tetras and then they went back to the shop - evils  

I dabbled with 2 of these once... as you say - they destoy everything, had to quarantine them with my sharks in the Death Tank.

get yerself a rubber eel, what a nightmare,have some fun. it destroyed everything then took me 3 hrs trying to catch it to take back. everytime i grabbed it, no matter how tight it got through my hands, tried a net, was so funny. then it would bury itself under gravel and dissapear somewhere. was like trying to find nessie. eventually caught it in a plastic bag aftera total of about 5 hrs and took it back

richie

[miggy]

I added some Green Seberhams to mine - first they ate all the plants, then the neon tetras and then they went back to the shop - evils  

I dabbled with 2 of these once... as you say - they destoy everything, had to quarantine them with my sharks in the Death Tank.

get yerself a rubber eel, what a nightmare,have some fun. it destroyed everything then took me 3 hrs trying to catch it to take back. everytime i grabbed it, no matter how tight it got through my hands, tried a net, was so funny. then it would bury itself under gravel and dissapear somewhere. was like trying to find nessie. eventually caught it in a plastic bag aftera total of about 5 hrs and took it back

richie

I would have thrown something electrical in the tank then rather pickled the eel ....